http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/ Engadget Comments for Samsung's 64GB SSD: better, faster, stronger http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/

Daft Punk's Harder Better Faster Stronger
sampled to
Kanye West's Stronger.

And Daft Punk sampled someone else in the original song too.

Which leads us to the question... is it harder, too?]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
This stuff rocks.]]>Nov 10th 2007 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Feb 5th 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
Of course, as you say, Engadget, the prices need to drop and the capacities need to double (at least).]]>Nov 10th 2007 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
Seriously though, this isn't far off the 80GB drive that I have tons of space on, so the only barrier left is price. The fact that it's 2.5" confuses me though -though there's obvious compatibility reasons, I thought a big reason for this was also to make it smaller.]]>Nov 10th 2007 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
Hell, if I had the cash and a drive that would fit, I'd mod one to that size myself...]]>Nov 10th 2007 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
See, all the stupid consumers who pissed and moaned about a price cut, now you could have a 16GB iphone, but apple wouldn't dare want to move at the speed of technology and piss off it's early adopters again.

as for a 32GB ipod touch/iphone, thats gonna be a whiles off too, because those things are nearly $400 alone, even with a bulk discount i'm sure apple would be paying $300-350 a piece.

In reality, a 64GB touch/iphone is nothing more than a pipe dream until those drive drop to the $200 price range.]]>Nov 10th 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/All good points. So much for an iPhone (or iTouch) that can hold my music collection.

=/ Hmm... I'm still wondering on that do-it-myself replacement thing though. It seems like it /should/ be possible to just buy a larger drive and swap it myself. ]]>Nov 10th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 19th 2007 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
Actually we need better flash-specific filesystems that wouldn't waste resources on optimizing for sequential access!
]]>Nov 11th 2007 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
...Is it what?

Silly Billy]]>Nov 10th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Do It Faster, Makes Us stronger
More Than Ever Hour After
Our Work Is Never Over

... couldn't resist :)]]>Nov 10th 2007 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 13th 2007 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
My guess is that they want to make realistic statements, lest they be deemed liars for saying: "This will save 80% power over your existing 64GB of storage" when they are comparing it to a RAID of two 32GB raptors each running at 10000 rpm (or even the 15000 rpm SCSI variants, 'cheetah', I think).]]>Nov 10th 2007 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 10th 2007 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
I expect that, by the time I come to replace the M1330 in three or so years time that SSDs will be ubitquitous in laptops and the prices will have fallen considerably. SSD is the future and it's here now;). Oh, and I think you might get a better deal than $1000 from Dell if you play your cards right too. I know mine didn't cost that much;).

Incidentally, since when was copying a 2.7GB file a real-world test;)?
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Quiet is great, more battery is fine, and I hardly ever reboot using Vista almost instant sleep feature, but installing software or writing large files is *painful*. Plan for a lot of memory: you do *not* want to see your system paging for virtual memory.

Now maybe Vista is to blame, but the whole system will hang now and then for 10 secs or more. Is it indexing something, writing whatever system logs on disk, who knows, but a a few other users have reported the same issue with this SSD on Dell forums. No driver update has been released either since the SSD option was out.

I for one will try to switch back to a SATA. This is not ready for prime time, even if Samsung claim better write speed on its 64 GB.]]>Nov 11th 2007 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Sebastien B, thanks for being the voice of reality check here.

All of you going into convulsions over the "day I've been waiting for", please research, read and think again. I've been waiting on the SSD 64GB SATA drive to be released, so I can plunge and upgrade my expensive enthusiast desktop machine with the "dream drive". However, the performance is always measured against notebook drives, write times are painfull, and a pair of WD Raptors in RAID 0 kicks any SSD's booty.

More info
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/08/13/flash_based_hard_drives_cometh/page12.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/13163/15]]>Nov 11th 2007 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/160->320 and 200/250Gb drives in the latest laptops are now common. SSD has also been making big jumps but it's much lower down the curve.

Where's my 1.8" form factor USB portable drive?]]>Nov 11th 2007 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
As far as life expectancy, thanks to wear leveling (which distributes out the writes so you no longer pound individual memory cells until they go bad), life expectancy on an SSD is measured in years even under a worst-case scenario of constant writing. I've seen estimates as low as 2 years with constant writes and as high as 15 years with ordinary use. I've seen conventional HDDs conk out after a year or two, so that sounds good to me.

Write performance is the main thing that keeps me from running out and getting one of these tomorrow. If they solved that by adding cache to them, I'd start putting them in my desktop PCs too, not just laptops.]]>Nov 11th 2007 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/ we could no longer tell the drive was grinding away during heavy read/write sessions. This is something that will take some getting used to.
It's like that on iMacs. Some R/W indicator in menubar (or taskbar tray) solves the freakish part and silent part becomes quite welcome.
]]>Nov 11th 2007 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/
Samsung claims 120MB/s read and 100MB/s write speed.

And here you say "Real world read/write showed the flash drive almost on par, but usually a bit slower".
Slower than a 5400rpm drive with about 35MB/s ????

Isn't that a big scam then?


I´m the first one to jerk of to the access-times but if they are trying to fool us they can keep that shit for themselves.]]>Nov 11th 2007 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/10/samsungs-64gb-ssd-better-faster-stronger/Nov 11th 2007 10:27AM