http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
Unless your one of those people who that Global warming is going to drown us...]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
You sir, suck.]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Give me proof...
Research that statement and see what you come up with. At least five quotes from reputable sources... then we'll talk.

@GJP303
I'm 14 and if you think that pollution is going to have "devastating effects" on this generation you need to listen to someone other than Al Gore...

@SteveMB
Nice!!!

]]>Nov 11th 2007 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
There will be other emergent effects of electric cars too, for example perhaps since they are much quieter we won't need such loud emergency vehicles. It will be a whole new experience. But it does have to happen carefully, there's bound to be a lot of mistakes in transition.

GJP303, whiners like you have always annoyed me. People who can't figure out that there is no "them" and there as many "good guys" in "them" as there are "bad guys" in "us" are the only bright ones. I know an 80 something year old man who would put most teens to shame in thoughtfulness, that's just one example.

By the way, in my original point about gas extraction, I was only referring to best case, tar sands type oil extraction is incredibly wasteful.
]]>Nov 11th 2007 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 12th 2007 8:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
The issue is that current Ni-cad batteries don't have the capacity or range for plug-in usage. Lithium-ion batteries are better but they have a safety issue and take long to charge(a problem when regenerative braking is concerned). Toyota is currently selling Li-on Vitz hybrids in Japan under very tight supply, the cars sold (around 30 per year) are used to test Li-on for future use.]]>Nov 11th 2007 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
I'd love the see the Chevy Volt produced, but I have very little faith GM will go through with it. After all, why should they? Look at all the positive press they're getting for just coming up with the concept vehicle. By 2010, they just have to produce another vapor-car to get us oohing and ahhing again while they continue to wrap fancy sheet metal around the same gas-powered engines.]]>Nov 11th 2007 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
]]>Nov 11th 2007 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
Davis? Hippie-school? No way! Aside from the project compost and domes, I haven't seen anything that would make us a hippie school.]]>Nov 11th 2007 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/It thats inconvenient your too lazy.]]>Nov 11th 2007 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
cost benefits must be weighed
if battery cost exceeds budget of most buyers than its range is worthless.
half a loaf is better than none.
if you only have30 miles range thats good to cut the emissions of most commutes. many commutes are under 30 a day, or only a little more. chopping off the first 30 miles of car trip per day for many is useful, even if you have a longer commute. if only for the convenience of having to visit the gas station on fewer occasions. most people don't drive 2 hours a day for work, although admittedly some do.]]>Nov 11th 2007 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.thinkingpeace.com/pages/Articles/Archive1/arts069.html]]>Nov 11th 2007 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 12th 2007 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 12th 2007 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
Whoever develops one & brings it to market first affordably gets my money.]]>Nov 11th 2007 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 11th 2007 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 12th 2007 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/For me, it's about not giving ANY MORE money to people in countries that HATE us. I want a renewable fuel that can be developed, produced and sustained without importing. I don't want to depend on other nations.

Just you wait; before most of us grow old and die, there will be wars, world wars, fought over this resource if we don't find something else. China's thirst, India's thirst will lead them to go anywhere to get their oil; sell and trade anything secure suppliers to fuel their economies....
It's not about polution, it's about demand for rseources. ]]>Nov 12th 2007 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
Hee hee, hey Beavus- he said Anteater.. huh, huh!
]]>Nov 11th 2007 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
If you expect to run all your Electric Cars and not just put YOUR pollution is someone Else's backyard, this is the ONLY way. Coal plants are nasty, the Slag heaps are getting into ground water.
For a good read, and to learn a little something about the problems with COAL, take a read here!!!
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html

There's NO magic solution to the problem. There's no free lunch. As for Al Gore, he's a total Hypocrite. Owns Multiple Mansions, and just to heat and cool one of those in enough for a Family for a year at least. The Private Jets. Why Not go commercial like everyone else? There's still 1st class. I saw a picture of him in his office in front of his computer with 3 Monitors running!!! Al's a ass!
]]>Nov 12th 2007 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/
We want people to drive less, fly less. consume less. That's the way, think before you act and stop being a lazy mindless consumer.
]]>Nov 12th 2007 4:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/11/toyota-details-research-plans-for-plug-in-prius-wont-lease-bat/Nov 12th 2007 8:30AM