http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/ Engadget Comments for AMD launches quad-core Phenom -- Intel shrugs http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
The black box edition is going to put AMD right back into the AMD we all knew and loved back before they tried to take down intel in the high end. But for overclockers and value builders, AMD is back where they started: on top.]]>Nov 19th 2007 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
although I am a little disappointed that AMD didn't bring out anything better. If they had, the fire under Intel would have continued to burn and make them come out w/ better chips (I want what the Athlon series did, a kick as chip and much better than anything that Intel had to offer)

I hope intel doesnt get lazy and we dont have another Prescott fiasco on our hands. ]]>Nov 19th 2007 3:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/AMD Phenom X4 9500 Quad-Core Processor HD9500WCGDBOX, Socket AM2+, 2.2GHz, 4MB Cache, 95W
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$286.00

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 CPU BX80562Q6600, 8MB L2 Cache, Quad-Core

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As for value, last I heard, Q6600 trounces Phenom 9500, @$8.00. Don't even think about Penryn. I'm no hater, I just don't like confused information, nor confused consumers.]]>Nov 19th 2007 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
Intel definitely improved their performance. Their quality is also best in industry. Yet, AMD is generally much cheaper.

That was marked many times that AMD's official price and street prices are two absolutely different beasts. Second sometimes is as much as twice lower than first.

Equation didn't changed in years (decades?): got money? - then go with Intel. Wanna save a serious buck and satisfied with slightly lower performance? - go with AMD. That's what I was told by system builders in 1996 when I was building my first PC. And it still holds.

I personally go with AMD right now, since their support of Linux is plainly better that those of Intel.]]>Nov 19th 2007 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
What I really want is an architecture built around a simplified paradigm: You don't know what the power is to be used for. Put it there, and make it flexible. I don't want a GPU anyways. I want a stream co-processor.

-Folding at Home
-Physics
-video/audio encoding/decoding and decrypting
-and the list will only grow]]>Nov 19th 2007 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
What the hell are you talking about? If you are on 939, then you need to upgrade to an AM2 to use a Phenom.

If you have a 680i motherboard or a Intel 965, then you can handle the current Quads from intel. Remember, the AM2 was released around the same timeframe as the 680 and 965/975.

What you apparently think is that the Phenom is competing with Intels latest offering, the penryn's (which might require a new motherboard, except in the case of the 680i), which it sure as hell isnt. It cant even match intels current generation. So, in fact, if you went for a Core2 Duo early with the 965, 975, or 680i, you can install a Quad right now, without upgrading your motherboard. AMD has absolutely no advantage with this release.

And if 20-30 dollars difference is honestly worth more than a 13%+ boost in performance, then you are a horrible consumer.]]>Nov 19th 2007 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2226948,00.asp]]>Dec 4th 2007 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
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the Q6600 is still faster... cheaper... and consumes less power....

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3153&p=1

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The Phenom 9600 is about 13.5% slower than Intel's Q6600 in our benchmarks. On the other hand, its price is also 13.6% lower than that of its direct competitor. Thus, the two products offer practically the same performance for your money.

Anandtech is smoking something to compare release day prices with stated list prices. Give it a week or two to settle down so the vendors stop gouging.]]>Nov 19th 2007 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/

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your precious 2.3 Phenoms 9600 is priced $283 (as price set by AMD)...

Q6600 is priced $269 (as priced by Intel)...

guess who's smoking?!?]]>Nov 19th 2007 5:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
http://www.on10.net/Blogs/maxpowerhouse7/like-having-2-graphics-cards-how-about-4-and-why-not-add-4-cpu-cores-too/]]>Nov 19th 2007 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q_9a4zDps]]>Nov 19th 2007 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/source: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/18/amd-delays-phenom-ghz-due-tlb

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They are pricing their quad similarly to intels quad (at least what intel quad's are going for retail). They have the same clock rate. They have similar performance (well, not really, Intel beats it at every step).

For who and why are they making these processors, if not to de-throne Intel, considering they are similarly priced?]]>Nov 19th 2007 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Since when in recent history has clock speed mattered?]]>Nov 19th 2007 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
With the Athlon, AMD increased its operations per clock, which didnt require a high clock to achieve equal or better performance than higher clocked P4's. However, clock still gave you better performance under the same architecture.

Core2's were even more powerful per clock, but the total clock rate still gives it that edge. Phenom's are less powerful per clock when comparing it to the equivalent Intel, so a clock boost at an equal price would give it an edge over Intel's processors.

What im trying to say, clock always matters, and has always mattered. When confined to a particular architecture, clock is what determines how powerful a processor is, and how much its going to be.]]>Nov 19th 2007 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
The other thing to realize is that program writers have to write optimizations that will take advantage of this on board video used as a general purpose processor. If no one writes for it, then its useless.]]>Nov 19th 2007 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/
I think we all knew AMD wouldn't be able to match the C2D with this launch. I think AMD is also trying to move on to 45nm as quickly as possible. I just hope they can do that sooner than later. ]]>Nov 19th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/I am currently looking to build a new PC and i was really waiting to see what AMD had in store, giving that they were using HyperTransport3 + new instructions along with the first *true* quad core CPU.
In the end it doesn't matter what technology the CPU uses it's how it performs in relation to it's price.
You are right the prices in the article are inflated I can get Q6600 much cheaper.

The Q6600 is faster than the ( as yet available ) 9700, while being cheaper and using less power, thats all that needs to be said.]]>Nov 19th 2007 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/amd-launches-quad-core-phenom-intel-shrugs/Nov 19th 2007 3:20PM