http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/ Engadget Comments for T-Mobile responds to Vodafone iPhone injunction: $1,500 unlocked iPhones http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Pump those euro suckers !]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Way to add to an internationally-read article, idiot.

OT:
I'm not surprised at the price of the unlocked iPhone offering, it makes sense to make it as unattractive as possible whilst still adhering to European (German/French) laws.]]>Nov 21st 2007 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
The law states that you may not abuse the common market, where abuse is defined below.

"Such abuse may, in particular, consist in (a) directly or indirectly imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading conditions ..."

By giving the unlocked phone too high a price, they are violating EU law. Think of it as creating a monopoly in the iPhone market in favour of the locked model. The law will force that price down to something like €499 or €599 (still a lot, but not nearly as much as €999). If you're thinking about buying one of these (and seriously, who is?), wait it out until the courts have had a look at the deal. Vodafone won't let this one sit.]]>Nov 22nd 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Jan 23rd 2008 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 23rd 2007 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
P.S: I send so many things to engadget. They get published. But I don't get credit!!!!]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
In that respect, they were certainly the better choice for putting together an iPhone-specific tariff in the UK; and their coverage was pretty formidable wherever I went.]]>Nov 21st 2007 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
Then it truly would be the ultimate phone/mp4 etc.

But for gods sake make it bigger than 8GB! 8GB for all music and videos is shizzzen to put it nicely.]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
IMHO, if they bring out a 3G version then the best choice they could make would be to go with three in the UK, a company that give free data roaming, unlimited data and decent call packages for a reasonable price, plus they dont mind offering skype so maybe there would be a possibility for VOIP to be added to the iphone.]]>Nov 22nd 2007 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
anyone can unlock the iphone; i'm just hoping apple is stopped from bricking it with the latest firmware patch - that's the part i find unacceptable.


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To be honest, i like apple, im no fan, but i love the iphone. Still i think this is a major ripoff.]]>Nov 21st 2007 7:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
It's intended as a "f*ck you" to Vodafone and their lawyers. It's just a work around for the injunction.

This is the same practice that will be used in France. Slap a price of 1000 or 1500 Euros on it, and NO ONE will buy the phone without a contract. It's not even clever, it's the most obvious thing they could've done. It's so easy to bypass legislation sometimes - I bet the Apple/T-Mobile lawyers spent two minutes on this one.

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So sorry, but your plan would not work here. :)]]>Nov 21st 2007 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/I'm sure the French unlocked iPhone will be equally as absurdly overpriced.]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
the camera did not sucked in all aspects
there was a video recording function
it was capable of 3G

As it goes, I have the N95 and couldn't be happier with it. It trounces the iphone in terms of technology. The great thing about the iphone however is its UI and simplicity, and it just looks fantastic.

I have settled for the time being with an N95 and an ipod touch (finally upgraded from my 3rd gen ipod whose battery life was down to 20 mins). The ipod touch is superb, and after jailbreaking it it is 5 times better.

If the iphone had the same technology as the N95 (camera e.t.c.) then I would buy it i n a heart beat. I'm holding out for the 2nd/3rd gen iphones before I buy.

I'm with O2 at the moment so thats no problem at the moment. However I do think it should not be carrier specific as it is annoying for people to change networks.

The elitism of Apple and their iphone should be abolished. At the end of the day it will benefit them as well as us.

Now, back to this presentation on carotenoids.....]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
So in other words you COULD be happier with the N95 if it looked and acted like an iPhone, but with the N95's feature set. I can agree with that.]]>Nov 21st 2007 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
1 - Post an iPhone on ebay, for sale in Europe. Say, $700.
2 - Walk to the nearest Apple store and buy it for $400.
3 - Unlock it with freely available tools.
4 - Send it off to Europe for a tidy profit

With a 2 iPhones / day allowance, you make $600 / day this way.

GO FOR IT! ]]>Nov 21st 2007 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
It's 2 iPhones per credit card.]]>Nov 21st 2007 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/This iPhone contract stuff is totally insane if every country has different policies. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.]]>Nov 21st 2007 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
I'M sorry for the guys who bought that thing here between the 9th and 19th of November. They have a SIM-locked Jesus-Phone (to infinity) or loose warranty by unlocking it. All customers who are buying it right now can unlock it officially by just calling the T-Mob Hotline.

Poor Apple. Just stop punishing your customers.


Au revoir...]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/
someone wants to earn a quick buck, so he signs on an iphone plan, then gets unlock code and officially unlocks the iphone, then he sells it at maybe (200 euros more, and uses his already useful current phone with the plan he just purchased.]]>Nov 21st 2007 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Vodafone have got to be the worst carrier in Europe... their rates are higher than the competition and they piss all over their customers with handset lockdown: A few years ago you couldn't even play regular MP3's on your phone or transfer your camera pics off it without using their data services as they crippled the bluetooth.

Plus they like to force their branding all over the UI and make any additional shortcut buttons on the handset go straight to their web service.
That's the one carrier I wouldn't even consider switching to.]]>Nov 21st 2007 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/21/t-mobile-responds-to-vodafone-iphone-injunction/Nov 21st 2007 9:14PM