http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
No way.. he totally pulled it off. I got good laugh just now. +1 for superfresh!]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
good thing i run windows,
never had a single problem,
no hardware or software acceptance issues,
no update issues,
not even a single Blue Screen Of Dea..........]]>Dec 4th 2007 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
I think all hard drives are made in China - with the exceptions of a few :P]]>Nov 28th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 28th 2007 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/2) Apple didn't make the drives with the problem. ]]>Nov 27th 2007 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
My 600mhz G3 iBook had an IBM/Hitachi TravelStar (laptop version of the famous DeskStar AKA DeathStar). Puked after 2 or 3 years. Fortunately it gave me a death rattle for about a month before it died; plenty of time to backup my data and source a much higher-capacity drive.

It's not like Apple hasn't had the occasional quality problem with their products; at least wait for a legit Apple screwup before you start your trolling.]]>Nov 27th 2007 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Apple is liable.
If a third party makes parts for a car, who gets stuck with the recall obligations? Who gets stuck with the financial implications in the press?

Deal with it, stop apologizing for a company. They're a company, just like any other. And if this story pans out, then they are just as liable as any other company would be.]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
If you have a car that is sold with Michelin tires, and the tires burst, is it Toyota's fault?]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/]]>Nov 27th 2007 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 28th 2007 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/One for the OS and such, 6 for all my media, and 3 for the ton of programs and libraries I have installed.

So if I could probably get along fine with one 8GB SSD, but 16 would give me more headroom.

How much would an 8 GB SSD cost me?]]>Nov 27th 2007 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 28th 2007 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
A) Apple acknowledges the defect and offers to replace it.

B) Seagate acknowledges the defect and offers to replace it

C) My drive actually dies (prayers)

I'm having a hard time thinking I'll get a new free drive to replace one that appears to be working fine right now.]]>Nov 27th 2007 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
I work for the University of Texas and we have about 17 of these bum macbooks. We took all of them back to apple over a period of the last two weeks and they are all getting new drives via apple for no charge. We staggered taking them in and the effect on our staff was minimal. Just waltz into your local apple store. It's real quick.]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
ethana2@gmail.com]]>Nov 27th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
The first one wasn't funny, and each one fails more and more.]]>Nov 27th 2007 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
How long did Seagate know about the fault? And will Apple replace the drives... or will it wait for a class action suit before doing the right thing?
I wish I didn't recommend my mom should buy Apple. I should have guessed, since ALL my apple laptops have had defects from failed logic boards to hard drive failures (harddrive, then logic board failure in the first two weeks of purchase, another two logic board failures at the 3 year old stage).
I was blinded by pretty hardware and a decent operating system, but the hardware needs to actually work first and be reliable.]]>Nov 27th 2007 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 28th 2007 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
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About time Apple starts showing their true colors... But of course, you'll still have a few old holdouts --- the diehards --- that will defend it with "well apple (may peace and blessings be upon them) didnt BUILD that hard drive! ..... they just chose the manufacturer and the specs and yada yada yada" ]]>Nov 27th 2007 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
Or do you have a better idea of who to blame?

Will Dell and Toshiba make your blacklist once it's revealed that, *gasp*, these drives aren't just in Apple products?

Laptops are just generally unreliable products. Apple may have tops in quality (source: Consumer Reports, past 5+ years), but the extended warranties on these things really pay for themselves.]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
Apple is not clairvoyant. Obviously, they didn't intentionally give us a part that they knew would fail.]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
Apple worshippers are pathetic. Actually, I'll chnge that to sad. If you have ever been in a real cult or known someone in a real cult, you see it in the "Jobson's Witnesses". Rationalization, Cognitive Dissonance, Double Standards, etc, etc.

Example: A friend who is a pro photographer (no... not a portrait type, but big enough to be an asst photog on several national retail catalog & magazine shoots) came by my office a few years back. Back in the Win2000 days. I had a BSOD while he was there. He about fell on the floor laughing.

Not long after that, I went by his studio. His Mac (pre OS-X days) locked up so hard that he had to pull the power plug to get it rebooted. I didn't laugh (much). But, in retrospect, what was really sad is that he justified it with something along the lines of "must have been something I did". Typical cult thinking. The organization is never to blame.

And for those of you that think these drives were just picked up off the shelf from a local best buy in china and then put into a laptop, you don't have a clue. Anybody care to get the part number from one of these drives and see if tigedirect or someone like that carries it? Bet they don't. When your large company like Apple (yes yes, I know Apple worshippers: large companies are evil, but Apple is soooooooooo different) you don't choose a drive from a catalog and say gimme 250,000 of those. YOU tell Seagate what YOU want.]]>Nov 27th 2007 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Dec 5th 2007 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/Nov 27th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/some-macbook-hard-drives-contain-fatal-defect-according-to-repo/
Who supplies the parts, and trains the supervisors (that in turn train the workers)? You can only blame so much on those sweat shop workers. This is just as much Apple's fault, as it is Seagate's, etc.]]>Nov 27th 2007 9:39PM