http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/ Engadget Comments for Official: Google's quest for 700MHz is so on http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Also, I love the way you slam "the carriers", with a big fat VZW "Holiday Gift Guide" ad at the top of the page.

Stick it to em Google. ]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Dec 3rd 2007 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
I know Google has the funds, but VZW has to calculate the effect of profitability over an entire organization, not just a subsection of spectrum. As such they may be willing to bid much more than the spectrum is actually worth. Google's stakes don't appear to be quite as high, though it would make a nice platform for G-Phones, and they could lease out spectrum for tower access.

Too complicated, I'm crawling back under my rock. ]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
"Google's application does not include any partners."

Interesting. Isn't Apple supposed to partner with Google?]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Anyway, low rank me if you want.

GO GOOGLE!]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
lol. Thanks Ryan for the correction. Shows you how much I know about religion.]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Save it for the special olympics.]]>Nov 30th 2007 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Actually, hallelujah is Hebrew for "Praise Yahweh." It is considered blasphemy in the Jewish Faith/Culture to use, or even spell the name of G-d and so Yahweh was coined to avoid this offense. Jah would be a reference to Rastafarianism.]]>Nov 30th 2007 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Also would you want Google (or anyone else) listening to your conversations in order to target ads? Personally I'd rather pay a monthly fee]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
How did we get here anyway? It would be like only being able to buy cars from the oil companies, and each car only working with one oil company's gasoline. STUPID!]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Dec 1st 2007 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Why wouldn't they?!?! They already took the money that was set aside to help bail out the Social Security system to spend upon war.

All i was saying was that it would be quite ironic if that were to happen.]]>Dec 3rd 2007 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
As for the advertising point, I suspect this will be a pay service from google, advertising free, aka just another wireless telco. The question will be whether or not they end up like the rest of the wireless providers, screwing you every which way they can.]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Who says that Google isn't already a service provider, they have data centers and fiber networks that rival a small telco already. Let's not forget the Mountain View Wifi network they operate.

Focus: What does the 700mhz spectrum mean? Would it be compatible with GSM? Or is this yet another wireless standard that would need to be created?]]>Nov 30th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
The free Wifi program they launched is still only in San Francisco. The transcontinental data connection hasn't even started construction.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Google is great on the software end of things. But outside of that, they seem to create a lot of projects that never go anywhere.

Oh, and it's going to take a while for this to be profitable for Google. The average joe is going to stick with the major carriers until Google has proven itself. Which is exactly the reason why Helio and Ampd Mobile went nowhere in a hurry. Google has the money to make things great, but they also need the customers to believe in their product. And while 100,000 technologically literate people may sign up at launch, it'll be a hard sell to the typical consumer.

Why fix something that isn't broken (for them anyway)?]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Also, people equate Google to high quality products, which will just add to the demand (unless proven otherwise.)

I'm not saying that they will come out with a great service, just what the perception is and that I think it could be a very good investment.]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
That is why Amp'd and Helio arent major players. IF Helio dropped their "membership" cost by 15-25 bucks I would switch tomarrow.]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
But seriously, Saint Dumb makes a great point. Google is essentially in the advertising business. And theyre going to want to recoup that 4b+ somehow. I wouldnt be surprised to get advertising text/picture/video messages or the like from advertisers...

I'm interested to see how this all plays out because there is some serious potential to shake up an industry that really has us consumers by the balls.]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Smell that? "it's the network"]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/Nov 30th 2007 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Google does not have a competitive advantage building and operating a massive, physical wireless infrastructure. Verizon, AT&T, and others do. Now that Google has gotten what it wanted - i.e. open access from whoever wins the 700MHz spectrum - they are likely to just submit the minimum bid and let the others duke it out. They'll be just as happy when their devices/software/Android-based phones (which is their competitive advantage) have guaranteed access to the eventual network without the headache of building it out themselves. ]]>Nov 30th 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
The last thing Google wants is to be a provider. Google just wants to get their ads on cell phones, and the rules they were able to get in place allow that.]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
I was going to get this for my wife for our May anniversary, but I only saved up 4.3 billion. Damn.]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Your wife will be very disappointed if you don't get her the 700mhz. It's what all the ladies are asking for this holiday season.

]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Google is going back to the old network TV formula from 50 years ago - sell advertising by attracting eyeballs. Its all about mobile computing now. The 12-key handset model is dead and the phone companies are in over their head trying to figure out what to do next.

I think the Google model ought to be given a chance to work.
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At least they're increasing services (yes, at their own pace, perhaps). Think of oil companies- they've been doing the same thing for 100 years & haven't really developed anything new except their pricing structure.]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/official-googles-quest-for-700mhz-is-so-on/
Why don't most "smartphones" have Wi-Fi? Why doesn't the iPhoney have a VoIP client? Because the carries HATE VoIP and see it as a huge threat to their lock on recurring revenue.

How many phone choices do you have? Why can't you use your phone on somebody elses network? Because they would all threaten their artificial scarcity that allows them to keep prices high.

Look at the report that just came out about 3 billion cell phone accounts. In the developed countries, monthly per-user revenue is north of $60 a month. In less-developed countries, using *MORE* minutes, it's closer to $3 (THREE) a month! Why? ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY.

The analogy that should open your eyes: What if you could only buy a car from an oil company, and it only ran on gas from that oil company? Even if you could break the locks on it and use another company's gas, you would have a two year contract with the old company to only buy their gas. Your choice of cars is limited too. If they don't have what you need, tough luck. Nobody else can make a car that fits your needs because the oil companies won't sell you gas. WOULD WE PUT UP WITH THAT?
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I currently use a K850. Before that I had an N95, N73, S620, E61 & about 10 other phones.

I bought them outright & used them on T-Mo & Cingular just fine.

You want a subsidy to buy & phone & to bitch about them forcing things on you? Can't have it both ways.

As for wifi- T-Mo has wifi & almost all Nokias these days do too. However, wifi isn't ubiquitous in other countries for the same reason it's not in ours: Not everyone needs/wants it.

Plus your argument about $3 per month in XYZ-poor country v $60 for us has nothing to do w/ Cingular or Verizon. Do you think a gallon of milk costs $5.50 in XYZ-poor country? 'Cause it does here & I don't see people crashing down on the milk industry for artificially keeping prices high- though they & every other company does. "What will the market bear?" That's how it's done.]]>Nov 30th 2007 12:33PM