http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/ Engadget Comments for Talks between Apple and China Mobile squelched... or are they? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://vphone.red-rome.com too bad it only comes in English. ]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
Several new models have the "shake" control function... The DigitalRise D99i and The D69i are hot in Asia right now.. Check out the YouTube Vid:

http://www.chinagrabber.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1403

BR]]>Dec 1st 2007 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/1GB storage ?
Movie stops when rotating?
Will songs change while you are running?]]>Dec 1st 2007 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
So while there may be a huge population in China only a fraction of that population would be in the market for a luxury item such as an iPhone.]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
Nopes. But they have Meizu :)]]>Nov 30th 2007 11:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 1st 2007 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
Of course, that's 13 million people, and Apple says they're only hoping to sell 10 million iPhones. So yeah, it's worth it to go into China.]]>Nov 30th 2007 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/I have no clue why they would want this. The miniOne has a truckload more features than the iPhone does anyways.
Oddly enough, Firefox doesn't recognize the word "iPhone" as spelled correctly. Oh well.]]>Nov 30th 2007 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
iPhone is not a word.]]>Nov 30th 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Nov 30th 2007 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 1st 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
I'm not sure how Apple would get revenue sharing in such an "open" system.

As for a $500 phone, that's not that bad. Average cell phone costs are $130 to $300 (remember, no service contracts and therefore no subsidized cell phones). When I was over there, I remember seeing the Nokia 8800 for over $1000 USD equivalent!]]>Nov 30th 2007 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 1st 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/ BUT
if 10% of people can afford it then its probably bigger than most European country.

AND YES, contract , or service wont work in china. they just dont used to that. ]]>Dec 1st 2007 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
My favorite site:
www.talkvideogames.com]]>Dec 1st 2007 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
Apple will have to disable or remove its WiFi chip to comply with the regulation.

(get it out first: WTF!!! Blatant iPhone rip-off!!Vaporware!!)
Oh, by the way, presumably, that's what causes the delay on MiniOne/Meizu M8.
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The Chinese doesn't care if they have an "REAL" iPhone!~]]>Dec 1st 2007 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 1st 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 1st 2007 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
Phones are a status symbol here, and being seen with an old phone is only something a foreigner would do.

The iPhone here usually retails at about 4000RMB for the 8G model (although it has gone up slightly to 4300ish since the 1.2 update).

Thats about 2 months salary for your average white collar staff. Given most people here live at home way past the age they would in other countries, that leaves a lot of discretionary income available for things like the iPhone.

@Harry, yes, technically true, but in reality everything is available.
eg e61i (with wifi), iPhone (with wifi) etc...


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Apple will be lucky to sell a thousand iPhones in China with those crazy telecom companies trying to dictate no revenue sharing. They need a lesson in capitalism and American greed. They'll be sorry for passing up the iPhone when the Chinese masses start picketing and rioting for not being allowed to have iPhones. It's their loss.]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 2nd 2007 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
what a great display of ignorance. travel sometimes, dude]]>Dec 2nd 2007 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/
I have never seen such horribly ignorant comments, are you from Mars? China mobile is one of Fortune global 500, its revenue is US$31.40 Billion in 2005 and US$34.80 Billion in 2006. In 2006, China mobile has 301.2 million subscribers. Concerning iphone, frankly, I think apple needs China mobile much more than China mobile needs Apple. The reason is simple, Chinese mobile service market is not an open market. There are only two major service providers, China mobile and China unicom, both of which are huge size companies. Even China mobile has no iphone, the cell phone users have to use their service anyway. A better strategy for apple is to directly sell iphone in retail stores. I would never doubt young people who are enthusiast to stylish stuff are willing to pay $500, even probably that is his/her one month income, to own a high tech toy. I will never say ALL Chinese cell phone users can afford it, but I will say many of them afford it and are willing to buy it. Don't forget the huge number of population, even a small percentage is a big market. ]]>Dec 2nd 2007 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/Dec 8th 2007 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/30/talks-between-apple-and-china-mobile-squelched-or-are-they/so no contract is quite normal]]>Dec 23rd 2007 3:31AM