http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
Thought I'd say it before every other Sony-hating, whining ***** did.

* delete as applicable]]>Dec 1st 2007 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
Additionally, I wouldn't mind one of these at about 50 inches.]]>Dec 1st 2007 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
Yep, I consider you applicable to delete.]]>Dec 1st 2007 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
Stand up. Walk to bookcase. Pull out dictionary. Walk back to chair. Sit down. Open.

Look up "sarcasm".

There you go.........]]>Dec 1st 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/;)
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Moron. Don't tell others to learn something you don't know yourself.]]>Dec 2nd 2007 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
hm, tv-tuner module maybe? ;) it has to be somewhere, doesn't it?]]>Dec 1st 2007 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
I thought the mandate by the FCC to have a digital tuner was only for those TVs that have a regular analog tuner. Is that wrong? If so, how does the FCC make the distinction between a TV and a monitor?

TIA.]]>Dec 1st 2007 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://so-mo.net/
Look how small it is next to that Vaio TX, you cannot understate the size of it.]]>Dec 1st 2007 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
Hate to be pedantic (actually thats a lie, I love it) but the screens aren't the same. The Dell 3007WFP-HC uses a more recent version of the panel from LG-Philips (LM300WQ3 as opposed to LM300W01 for anyone who's interested) which has better response times, contrast and wider colour gamut.

Apple have a nasty habit of being slow to update their technologies and their monitors really are overpriced. £1200 for a Cinema HD when I can get a 3007 for less than £860? No thanks.]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
i don't know a whole lot about OLED, but it probably requires a controller board, and there does need to be a tuner, and some other bits and widgets, thats whats in the box. the power cord would have been nice to put in there though, i'll keep my hopes up for the XEL-2 to make those improvements.]]>Dec 1st 2007 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/yeah, if you look at pictues of it, it's got dual tuners, ethernet, what looks to be USB and eSATA (could be HDMI, the pictures i fuzzy, and my eyes are not what they used to be).

Definitly not VESA mountable, unless the stand folds behind the screen and it's VESA from there.]]>Dec 1st 2007 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
]]>Dec 1st 2007 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/I had high-hopes for this OLED TV stuff, now I'm kinda "meh".]]>Dec 5th 2007 1:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
A superslim (X505: ]]>Dec 1st 2007 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 2nd 2007 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/Dec 1st 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/I wonder how much power this screen actually needs, they use OLED in portable devices so you'd think they are low power, but there are a lot of pixels of course.

]]>Dec 1st 2007 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
WHAT I would like to see is the ratio for the very darkest black that it can display BEFORE turning off the pixel, to me that would be the true ratio.]]>Dec 1st 2007 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/That's also a reason why they try to use LED backlighting in LCD's that can selectively be turned off in areas.
And why do you have issues with a new and better technology coming around?
The tricky thing with OLED is still the lifetime of the display. And seemingly the power it needs?
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The issue is that then the actual ratio theoretically speaking is 1 to infinite, since a turned off pixel is essentially ZERO. I would rather be interested in knowing whats the best black that it can display without turning off the pixel. This in turn will let us know the accuracy of those almost black colors.

IF it goes from .1 (a number for comparison purposes only, from 1(white) thru 0(black) lets suggest) to 0.0 by turning OFF the pixel, then that means there is no control over that range of color.
in case of a 10 bit display (2^10=1024 luminance steps) you would be loosing control or calibration capabilities over the lower 100 luma levels (I dont know the threshold where it would stops emiting light, when/if we know then we can figure this out better.)

Even if it went from .01 directly to 0.0 you would still loose 10 steps. Visually this could mean that a slow fade from black you could feel a visual "pop" when the image starts to fade in.

peace.

P.S. Sorry for the bad English, its my third language)]]>Dec 1st 2007 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/01/sony-xel-1-oled-tv-unboxed/
OLED do have the best contrast ratio. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. Every site that has seen this in person says it looks like a photograph. OLED has the advantage of true blacks and whites, so if something is letterheaded it doesn't waste power and doesn't take away from the main screen by lighting the black pixels.]]>Dec 1st 2007 6:02PM