http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/ Engadget Comments for Wacom rolls out the Cintiq 20WSX interactive pen display http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
At least it's getting close... they used to be $3000, right?]]>Dec 4th 2007 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
If you're professional software alone reaches in the thousands of dollars (Adobe Creative suite CS3 has a MSRP of $1,799 for single user license), $2,000 for a device that serves as your monitor and tablet and can dramatically improve your productivity is very fair. ]]>Dec 4th 2007 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
It's worth every penny, and personally I'm glad not every artist can afford one because it truly puts me in a different league than my peers.]]>Dec 4th 2007 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
Uh. Can you say Gear whore? More expensive tablets, cameras, synths, guitars, or any other gear for that matter does not make the artist. If you are a better artist because you have a Cinteq I have to say I consider you to be a spoiled amateur, and if it separates you from your peers in terms of results produce, I have to say they are also amateurs. I assure you that while a Cinteq makes life a bit easier, the same results can be achieved by a person with an Inutos, Graphire, or hell, even a mouse and enough dedication. In this case, you should be glad that not every hobbyist artist can afford one because then you wouldn't be special, but your expensive toy doesn't make you a professional.]]>Dec 5th 2007 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
1) They've got what amounts to a monopoly on the art tablet market. There are other brands, but they're no threat. Wacom can charge what they want— so they do.

2) They make quality equipment. It's not unheard of for their tablets to last decades. They simply don't make disposable products.]]>Jan 13th 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
That photo is from Banff National Park, Canada. Just visited there last summer, and I'll never forget that mountain (or should I say, massive slab of rock). One of a kind.]]>Dec 4th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Actually, for that price, it should be able to play UT3 without the use of a computer.
Close to the price of a high end notebook? No thanks.

]]>Dec 4th 2007 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 5th 2007 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/12WX.cfm

$999]]>Dec 4th 2007 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/]]>Dec 4th 2007 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
But when you can get a good, speedy tablet for under $1,600, it's hard to imagine buying something like this unless I'm a Power user or a Mac guy.

I think unless Wacom gets on the Multi-Touch ball they're going to be left behind. At the vey least we need superior touch and pen input with a VERY large, easy to handle screen. I can see an iMac being converted using this tech.

Get on it, DIY-ers!]]>Dec 4th 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
People have been, currently are, and will be using pen based displays because right now, there is currently a real benefit to using one of these as opposed to a normal graphics tablet.

Pen and touch input have to work seperately - if you draw and rest your hand on the screen, then it would activate the screen at that pressure point. Also, pen-based displays are configured to sense up to 1024 levels of pressure - touch based displays sense only an 'on-off' type of situation.

Essentially, there are a lot of professionals who use the Cintiq 21UX. Every video editing and animation studio that I've ever seen has at least one.

The advantage of a Cintiq are its size, and its ability to move it to multiple different computers - with a tablet pc you are tethered to one computer, so when that computer gets too slow, you cannot take the pen display with you. Also, 14 inch tablet pcs are almost non-existant, and even more rare are tablet pcs with dedicated graphics. This is why studios would simply buy an ample desktop and a cintiq.

As far as I can see, the Dell Multitouch does little to change this. These new models will just make Cintiqs even more popular and accessible.]]>Dec 4th 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
Well, yeah man, who do you think these are made for? I work in the film VFX industry out in LA, I've seen a heap of these in various shops around town. Matte painters, compositors even 3D artists use them and they all swear by them. My girlfriend is a matte painter and compositor, she's done all her work on a 20" Cintiq for over two years now and she swears by it, the speed increase over using a mouse or even a regular Wacom is noticeable.

I love that you seem to actually be mad at Wacom for pricing this thing out of your reach, if you can't afford one you don't need one.]]>Dec 5th 2007 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
In several computer/library classes my girlfriend has taught, she has found that the Mouse is the SINGLE biggest hurdle for most people to overcome when stepping up to a computer for the first time. It's simply a fact that people are more inclined to use a smooth, useful touch interface, IF it's done properly, rather than a relatively cumbersome mouse. Just because we're used to it doesn't mean everyone is. When the touch interface and the OS come together properly, more and more people will go that way.

Why do you think there's such a rush to get more and more touch screen tech out there? Companies are realizing that it's far cheaper and easier to create a new key layout in software than to build a whole new device. Heck, on Star Trek: The Next Generation all of their computer panels for the LCARs OS were haptic, multi-touch, multi-layer touch screens. It's just easier than plastic keys.

I don't think you guys quite got what I meant, which is to say that a tablet like this is overpriced, whether or not I can afford it. I'm not saying it's not a great product in and of itself, and, yes, I'd love to have one. I'm also an illustrator and composer, so, yes, this would be an awesome thing to have. I've used the Cintix before and loved it. I'm not against such a product in general.

However, considering how cheaply they CAN make these things, I'd like to see a dramatic price reduction. I think there's just big enough of a market to make the money back.

And I agree, right now you can't really have a pen at the same time as touch-sensitivity, but that will be overcome at some point. There's a prototype that does that right now. The smarter you make your sensing devices the easier using two things at once becomes. Considering they have touch screens that can tell individual fingers apart already, would the rest of this be far off?]]>Dec 5th 2007 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/As far as Tablet PC, I wouldn't use them for studio use, but they are good for as a complimetary when you're not in the studio. Power-wise they can handle 2D fairly easily (just have more rams) and any future 2D upgrade...unless Photoshop adds a 3D function. Dedicated graphics is good enough for 2D. I and a lot of people can't tell the difference in sensativity resolution between tablet PC and cintiq. To me, as an artist, Tablet pc is heaven. It's like having a drawning pad with you that can surf the net. I hit a lot of coffee shop and draw all day.]]>Dec 4th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
Oh and anyone here who thinks a 3D or 2D artist can just throw around 1000-2000 dolours ot quid are massivly mistaken.]]>Dec 4th 2007 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
Well you're wrong here in two ways;

first of all, buying something like this for us artists is like buying say umm... a car for the rest of you - that helps you people get to work, this helps us work faster... so in turn it pays for itself pretty quickly...

second of all, I don't know about you; if you are a artist and if you are one, what caliber are you of, but you have to remember that not all artists charge 50 bucks per project... I for one am a web designer and my rates typically start at 2k/site -- but I've been known to charge upto 10 on a few projects....

So long story short, if this helps me make money faster and more efficiently, then hell yeah I would buy it - however as a web designer, a mouse and keyboard are my tools of choice - so no real need for this thing for me...

But I still want one :p]]>Dec 4th 2007 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/]]>Dec 4th 2007 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 4th 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/from Cintiq to PC: USB for data
from Cintiq to PC: VGA or DVI (so if you have a dual port video card, this needs one port or you'll need another video card port from somewhere on
the machine to use it)
from Cintiq to wall: power

Function:
kinda like a mouse but drivers will interact wit software to a greater degree if it is tablet aware... pressure sensitivity, angle of tool, rotation and crazy stuff like that. Plus the programmable buttons on either side.]]>Dec 4th 2007 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/
oh, and if you think its too expensive, then you obviously have no need for it....move along.

]]>Dec 5th 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/Dec 7th 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/wacom-rolls-out-the-cintiq-20wsx-interactive-pen-display/I like everything that I’ve read on the Cintiq 20WSX, and I plan to make a purchase very soon. I recently had to upgrade to Vista and there are no plans to make a driver for it. There are downloadable drivers to the Artz II for Windows 98, 2000 and XP however. If interested, drop me an email.

Cintiq has developed, what sounds like an excellent addition to facilitate my art. The trade-off in time, space and materials saved is well worth my investment and since I just purchased Adobe CS3 I can hardly wait to get started with this ned hardware.
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With all the talk about multi-touch conflicting with pen-based input above, what about using two pens (or a secondary touch-tool in your other hand if not an actual pen) instead of kludgy finger input messing with the precision/interpretation of single-pen input.

they could definitely implement multi-touch on the Cintiq with two pens.. it would be amazing :)
imagine having the hand tool in photoshop on your left controller for massive zoomed-in work, or in 3d you could use the inputs to rotate/manipulate the space much easier than a mouse or single input.

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