http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/ Engadget Comments for MacBook Pro really was PC World's fastest tested laptop... until the Phantom-X http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Now here comes along Apple with their little Macbook Pro thats not even design to run Vista "Vista Certified Hardware" not to mention any other OS and then, *POOF*, overnight they become king of the hill in benchmarks on Vista and everything else, meanwhile everybody else on the planet is complaining how Microsoft made their own OS to slow and it has way too many "compatibly" issues?

I guess Vista needed Steve Jobs blessing just for it to run faster and then installed on a MacBook Pro "Non Certified Hardware" just to get the bugs out!

Come on bro... I ain't *buying* that!]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Eurocom puts paint on a Clevo D900C jacks up the pirce a couple grand and calls it product. Sager sells it as the NP9260, NP9261, and NP9262.

The D900C has a desktop chipset, SLI (up to dual 512MB 8800M GTX), and up to 3 HDD's in RAID 0/1/5. No other notebook can come close that kind of power.

These notebooks can be built for as low as $2200, but can be specced above $5000. Eurocom's prices are ridiculous.]]>Dec 7th 2007 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
And just because its a boutique laptop still means its a laptop. As far as PC world's statement, had they said the Mac Pro is the fastest Vista laptop for its price range, then there would be no argument. But they didnt. They said it was the fastest tested this year, a year that hadnt ended. Stupid move.

And, they said it twice, as if i had shit myself reading it once, cleaned up, then continued where i ended off just to have it reiterated. PCWorld is a dead resource for information.]]>Dec 7th 2007 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
What I mean by boutique laptops are those webstores that just rebrand a laptop that is available elsewhere. FalconNW, Eurocom, and VoodooPC basically slap paint on a machine you can get somewhere else for less. Boutique laptops are rip-offs. For instance. VoodooPC offers a painted D900C (Envy H171) for $5742 base. I can get an exact same unpainted D900C for less than half that price!!! $2500 for some gimmick accessories and paint!?

Clevo is the manufacturer. You can get them barebones from www.rjtech.com. Or you can get well priced Sager (Clevo rebadge) from www.xoticpc.com with or without paint.]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Harry McCracken? Really?

I thought his name was Phil.
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1. The macbook pro running vista was just as fast as any other laptop with the same specs, which had nothing to do with it being an apple computer

2. For those specs, you're paying the apple premium so any other laptop which cost the same would be faster and any other laptop as fast would be cheaper]]>Dec 7th 2007 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
1. 17" widescreen LCD, dual core, AMD X2, 100GB hard drive, 1GB, DVD/RW, GeForce Go 7600 w/ 256MB dedicated graphics, ExpressCard slot, modem, wi-fi, card reader, and Vista Home Premium for $700.

2. Gateway CX210 tablet, 1GB, 1.7GHz Core Duo, DVD/RW, 80GB hard drive, card reader, dedicated video card, 14" display, and Vista home premium for $950 (actually paid $750 after a glitch but I'll be generous).

I purchased both of those over 6 months ago, so you should have no trouble matching that, right? ]]>Dec 7th 2007 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Dell: C2D 2.2, 4GB RAM, 3YR service, 8600m GT, 350GB HD, 1680 x 1050 screen, Wireless N, XP Pro, Upgraded Battery, express card sound card, integrated webcam. $2369

MacBook: C2D 2.2, 4G Ram, 250GB HD, 1440x900 screen, wireless-N, 8600m GT, AppleCare, and all the other non-configurable stuff: $3273.

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Honestly, what kind of marketing is this? If you have good product then why hide it? We haven't seen a Mac on TV since those performa infomercials!]]>Dec 7th 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
They say Vista is Bad but they do not sell the idea that Macs are really good. Even one of the ad says Vista is so bad and people are downgrading to XP, which is telling peopel wait on Vista insetad of conviencing them to go Mac...
M]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
THERE IS NO STEP THREE

(step three is a lie?)]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
You seem to know a lot of about advertising. I suggest applying for a job at TBWA/Chiat/Day. It's obvious they need a new account planner or even a creative director to work on the Apple account. Imagine relying on something as tried and true as comparative advertising to overcome barriers in the minds of consumers.]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
A 10,000 sq. ft. mansion is a lot nicer than a double-wide trailer. Guess which sells more?

Any Mercedes is nicer than any Chevy. Guess which sells more?

Wal-Mart sells a buttload more than Macy's. But which is better?

Vizio sells the most tv's, but they are not the best available.

An assload of happy meals from McDonalds is not better than one steak dinner from Morton's.

Quantity does not mean quality or superiority. It generally means you hit a low price point.
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So what are you comparing here?

Are you trying to say that PC's are the low-end in computers? That less #'s = good?

I use a Sony Vaio, and it works awesome. In some ways, better than my MacBook Pro. It all depends on what YOU think is better. ]]>Dec 7th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
What I was saying is that just because something has market share doesn't mean it's better or the best.

The large windows market share is partly due to millions of people who don't know jack about computers buying the cheapest pc they can at Wal-Mart or Best Buy or wherever. Apple doesn't play in that market so they will probably never have >50% market share. Or even 25%.

And Vaio's tend to be higher priced pc's. A lot of the windows posters on here say the same thing about Vaios as Macs; they are overpriced and they built their own pc that will play Crysis at 500fps with some copper wire, duct tape, a soldering iron and a couple of coconuts.
]]>Dec 7th 2007 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Apple doesn't play in the Best Buy market? Last time I was in there I saw some Mac systems. Apple's lagging market share isn't because they don't try to compete with other PCs.]]>Dec 7th 2007 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 8th 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Like, you drive a BMW while I drive a Honda, then you purposely tell me you have more horsepower, better luxury equipment and so on... Isn't that just bullying? So how is that fair?]]>Dec 8th 2007 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
It's only slightly more heavy than the Phantom but blows prit-near EVERYTHING out of the water as far as speed goes - laptops and desktops alike. I expect a call from PC World real soon now.]]>Dec 7th 2007 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/this post really does not make any sence. sure i can build something faster out of my baseman if i had the extra money and time, but also everyone knows QUAD CORE is faster than CORE 2 DUO on any machine. but you guys are also welcome to compare the Phantom-X to the the macpro desktop that comes with 2 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors (8-core)and that my friend makes the macpro the fastest windows running machine ever. it my be the zune banners getting into engadget & Gizmodos heads though]]>Dec 7th 2007 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Yes the Phantom-X is more powerful because it has a better processor, thats how these things work. Saying it shouldn't be counted because it has a quad core is stupid. The Mac got beat fair and square.

Oh, and fyi, the Mac Pro definitely isn't the fastest Windows PC out there. Theres the new Dell T7400's for a start, and lets not even get into some of the brutes that Tyan has built in the past]]>Dec 7th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Intel® Xeon™ Quad processors 3.4GHz, 16MB Cache, 800Mhz FSB
Times 2!!!!

Apple does not update its hardware as quickly as companies like HP, Dell, etc, so they can never be number 1 in the PC world for long.]]>Dec 7th 2007 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/
Processor:
Mac: X7350, 65 nm, 8 MB L2, 2.93 GHz
Dell: X5460, 45 nm, 12 MB L2, 3.16 GHz

Graphics:
Mac: Single Nvidia Quadro FX 4500 512MB
Dell: Dual Nvidia Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB

Memory:
Mac: 16gig
Dell: 32gig (although I could only spec that on the UK site, not the US one oddly)

Hard drives:
Mac: 4 bays, up to 1TB each
Dell: 5 bays, up to 1TB or 15,000rpm 146gig


Now, which of those is more powerful?]]>Dec 7th 2007 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/xtreme-notebooks-917v-accelerator/4505-3121_7-32751902.html?tag=pdtl-list]]>Dec 7th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/macbook-pro-really-was-pc-worlds-fastest-tested-laptop-until/Dec 7th 2007 3:21PM