http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/ Engadget Comments for Goldman Sachs says second-gen iPhone is in "final design phase," Apple TV to get LCD screen http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Mar 7th 2008 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
Since apple products tend to have long windows where they are fairly static products, there are usually refurbs out of current products at a discount which reduces the price to normality. I got a refurbished Macbook for $850.

My dad bought himself an iPhone and has now been talking about getting a Mac. I have a Mac but no desire for an iPhone.]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
I predict that apple will update some computer in its hardware lineup within 6-18 months. Its impossible for me to be wrong here people!!]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
Wait there for a second while I go find a two-by-four...]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
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2) to browse the web, I need flash player support
3) reasonably priced

I am a Windows Media Center fan, so I hope Microsoft comes out with a iPhone killer before Apple meets the above criteria so I'll have smooth Media Center integration with a Microsoft device.

HOWEVER, if Apple comes out with an iPhone that meets all of my criteria, then I will forgo the Media Center integration and buy my first Apple device.]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/1. Announcement in January (to upset all those who just got a last-gen model for Xmas)
2. Ships in March
3. "Features" announced in September to push Holiday sales]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
there will be an iPhone 2, mark my words, it'll probably come out with a new firmware that supports stereo bluetooth and some other features everyone wants... it COULD be designed different, but that makes little sense to me, maybe a white version? GPS will probably be thrown in there for good measure, and if they have any sense, expandability with microSD or something like that, 32gb is a lot of room, but there is still a desire for removable storage.

As for the apple TV having an LCD screen... why? Makes little sense to me, so you can see what is currently playing? Why not just look at your TV?

I think the next big thing apple could/should do with the apple TV is pair it with one of those 30in Cinema Displays and add a TV tuner. Consolidation is neat.

Honestly though, all of this is obvious, everything has to have a sucessor. Period. EOD.

(ps: isn't this guy the asshat that said apple would come out with a 12in iBook?)]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/;^)]]>Dec 12th 2007 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
HTC... Apple... HTC.... Apple.... UHHGGG!]]>Dec 12th 2007 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/]]>Dec 12th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
1) have they released an unlock for 1.1.2 yet?

2) how/where did you find an iPhone for $399 with no contract involved?!

3) What normal features will not work on your unlocked iPhone? Any?]]>Dec 12th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
I'm currently utilizing 1.1.2, but that's because there isn't anything I consider a must have to downgrade to 1.1.1. Needless to say, when I was running the earlier versions, I hacked and added all sort of things...and no brick yet...]]>Dec 12th 2007 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
DOH! I need to keep up...]]>Dec 12th 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 13th 2007 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
& dont forget a uber battery apple !]]>Dec 12th 2007 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
It better have a friggin SirfIII in it.]]>Dec 12th 2007 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 13th 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
Must have:

1. WVGA display (that is, 800 px width or higher)
2. GPS
3. 3G

Nice to have:

1. Instant voicemail (be able to send a voicemail instantly)
2. Better canned sms response/UI
3. Flash and Java
]]>Dec 12th 2007 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
Personally, I think the AppleTV's hardware is just fine. I could probably benefit from a faster CPU, but other than that it only needs some software improvements (like the aforementioned HD video support - which might require the performance boosts I was talking about).]]>Dec 12th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/
Besides, I forgot the main reason why this is a bad idea: cost. Apple DOES NOT need anything to increase the cost of the AppleTV. I think it's the first device of its kind to get things right (aside from the horrible codec support), but there are other options that are starting to look better and better.]]>Dec 12th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/12/goldman-sachs-says-second-gen-iphone-is-in-final-design-phase/Dec 12th 2007 4:57PM