http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/ Engadget Comments for Blackbird 002 gets a little cheaper for the holidays, now starting at $2,399 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 18th 2007 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/much less than that after sli or simply 1 512mb video card]]>Dec 17th 2007 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/There is a work around to that.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/virtualserver/2005/proddocs/vs_operate_Best_practices.mspx?mfr=true

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I've always been a console kind of guy and never got into PC games due mainly to how expensive hardware is. Outside of the ability to play MMORPGs (since console games really lack a similar experience), are the games really that much better? Is it really worth all that cash?]]>Dec 17th 2007 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
Good point, however I'd like to add that not only is computer gaming hardware ridiculously overpriced compared with consoles, but it is also obsolete just about every half year, which comes to another point:

This computer is a ripoff even at this reduced price, I don't even care if it is liquid cooled. For that much coin, I would expect at the MINIMUM a q6600, 4gb of ram (which is DIRT cheap nowadays, but computer makers like dell/hp still think they can charge an arm and a leg for it), and a HEFTY discount, not some measly $300 off a nearly $3000 computer.
]]>Dec 17th 2007 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/That is the best thing about PCs, the mix and match feature. You want this and this and it makes it (Duh) much more of a Personal computer.]]>Dec 17th 2007 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 18th 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 18th 2007 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 18th 2007 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 18th 2007 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
liquid cooled case: $265.11
turbo cool P/S: $29.99
processor/mobo (Dual core E6750): $238.70
2GB ddr2-900 RAM: $121.61
GeForce 8800gt: $368.75
SATA 500GB HDD: $87.00
Windows Vista Ultimate: Nevermind, your old copy of XP does just fine.

Total: $1111.16

So exactly why do I want to pay $1200 for an hp logo?]]>Dec 17th 2007 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
Regardless, this rig is for people who have a lot of money, and don't care enough to build it themselves. Even then, its still a pretty horrible deal. If you don't want to or can't build a computer yourself, at least buy a normal Dell or HP and just stick a decent video card in it.]]>Dec 17th 2007 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/I don't know where you buy your p/s (best buy maybe) but the one I listed is a 680W Chiefmax. If you need more than that you can get a HP 800W for $78. But you don't need more than that.

The CPU/mobo combo is with a basic mobo, but you can get the nF 680i mobo with the processor for another $150 ($400 total).

Your right on the 8800GT, the one I listed was a GTS. It has 650Mhz clock speed with 1.94Ghz memory clock, so slightly better, but the GT is probably more for the money. Stick with that.

You still save just under $2500, and if you can't figure out how to plug a few wires together yourself, you don't deserve that kind of a machine. You could always spend the money you saved on a few computer courses at the local community college.

]]>Dec 17th 2007 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/CoolerMaster RC-690 Case - $30 @ NewEgg
ThermalTake 700W ToughPower PSU - $52 @ NewEgg
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboard - $127 @ ClubIT
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 - $195 @ NewEgg
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - $14 (combo w/ E6750) @ NewEgg
Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 - $35 - Fry's
Saitek Eclipse Keyboard - $32 @ ClubIT
Samsung Spinpoint T 500GB w/ NCQ support - $105 @ NewEgg
Samsung 20x DVD±RW SATA - $32 @ NewEgg
BFG 8800 GT OC - $209 @ Best Buy

Factoring in the occasional tax and shipping charge, it's roughly an $850 machine. A very similar rig from HP costs $2,600. What a ripoff.
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In all seriousness though I've seen people calculate the value of this particular PC on various forums, and frankly the markup isn't really THAT bad. You do get a full fledged 680i motherboard that can run SLI AND Crossfire, as well as all retail level parts. A desktop's lifetime may very well be ~5 or less, but something tells me you'd be able to use that case for a loooong time...]]>Dec 17th 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
$45K for a Shelby Mustang? are you crazy?

4 tires from Costco - $137.50
cool rims from Walmart - $98.98
crate engine - $1200
Xcaliber fiberglass kit - $2100
brand new Chevy Aveo - $13,749 +TT&L

total - just over $15K it's just as good and I have plenty left over for a Vespa too!

$45K just because it looks great, runs great, has a warranty and is already put together?!?! what a rip off! Hey I wasn't born yesterday]]>Dec 17th 2007 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
FYI, the gt500 crate motor is $15,000, and rightfully so being essentially the same as the one in the ford GT.

The tires probably cost around $1000, more than that for the rims.

Sorry, your comparison sucks. You could build a computer with IDENTICAL components, not cheap pos ones, for $1000 less, not including the case of course but if you like that thing over a silverstone or lian li......

Lian li- $300
Ultra x3-$300
Q6600- $300
4gb ddr2-$120
500gb hdd$100
asus p35 $130
dvd/rw -$40
8800gt -$250
=GRAND TOTAL $1,540
for a system that will SMOKE the hp and is upgradeable down the road.]]>Dec 17th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
That computer you made simple need a ~520w PSU for around $120]]>Dec 18th 2007 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www-i5.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/mbp/bloom/]]>Dec 17th 2007 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/Dec 17th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/blackbird-002-gets-a-little-cheaper-for-the-holidays-now-starti/
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