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BTW if you are weaving or driving indecisively or not using your signal or menacing pedestrians with your vehicle with conducting "business," and I see you do that, the Chicago pigs will be the least of your worries. Shut up and drive. The more of you who are stopped, ticketed, and hopefully beaten senseless and hauled off to the Cook County Clink, the better. ]]>Feb 20th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 21st 2007 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/
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I've seen a cop make a U-turn and pull somebody over for fishing in their glove box while driving. Not sure how you prove you weren't distracted either.

But studies clearly show that talking on the phone is distracting. I've almost been run over by zoned-out cell phone talkers.

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Yes because I can really HEAR the sarcasm in his voice with that post. ;) If you are going to be sarcastic on a thread use a bloody smilie. The only time sarcasm REALLY works on a thread without a smilie is when it is so over the top that there is simply no way in hell anyone could possibly hold that opinion, but even then this is Engadget. Where the teen aged, I-know-everything-so-I'm-right, morons come to play. So assuming sarcasm doesn't always, or ever, work.
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So if the law does have the wording, it won't matter about changing the law. All the fines and tickets will have to be dropped since you can't exactly back date a change in law. I'm pretty sure most every state constitution will have that protection clearly stated :-) Personally I hate bulls*it techicalities that let people off (and the lawyers that love to use them) ... but I also believe in strick adherence to constitutional law. Some how it seems the morons are always the ones drafting laws adding stupid clauses to kill its purpose or any bite it may have.]]>Dec 21st 2007 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 22nd 2007 5:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 21st 2007 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/
we need to have our dessert, not be in the middle of a desert. ]]>Dec 21st 2007 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/
That said, I live in Emil Jones' district. At least I'll get a short sense of satisfaction voting against him. ]]>Dec 21st 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Fight!]]>Dec 21st 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/30 throughout State. The provisions of this Chapter shall be
31 applicable and uniform throughout this State and in all
32 political subdivisions and municipalities therein, and no
33 local authority shall enact or enforce any ordinance rule or
1 regulation in conflict with the provisions of this Chapter
2 unless expressly authorized herein. Local authorities may,
3 however, adopt additional traffic regulations which are not
4 in conflict with the provisions of this Chapter, but such
5 regulations shall not be effective until signs giving
6 reasonable notice thereof are posted.
7 (Source: P.A. 85-532; revised 12-04-01.)

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Also to the person who said ignorance of the law is not an excuse. They are wrong. Unreasonable ignorance is not an excuse. e.g. I didn't know it was 45 MPH when there are signs posted is not a valid defense. As opposed to I didn't know it was 45 MPH when there are no signs posted is a valid defense. Both are born out of ignorance and hence the reason we have signs to reduce ignorance to the law.]]>Dec 21st 2007 11:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 22nd 2007 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 22nd 2007 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 22nd 2007 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 22nd 2007 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Dec 31st 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/
How many of you research all the laws in a city before going there? No one? Yeah. It's still legal to talk on a cell while driving in many parts of the country, if not most. Unreasonable to think that people will suddenly know specific laws for an area without signs or being told. There should be 1 warning per person if there are no signs so that people have no excuse for not knowing and can't complain then, especially if they are from out of state.

To the person that wants peoples' licenses suspended and revoked for this, you are crazy. The whole city will shut down. You obviously don't live here. The city runs on fines. The Traffic Enforcement people are under the DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE for pete's sake.]]>Dec 22nd 2007 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/
As for who should be liable for notifying the public, make it the cell providers responsibility to inform their clients of the rules and restrictions in their local municipality.]]>Dec 22nd 2007 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/21/city-of-chicago-sued-for-illegally-ticketing-in-car-yappers/Given the general lack of driving standards in the US, any removal of distractions is a good thing. If you really have to use a phone whilst driving, use a bluetooth headset, they cost less than $50, and are very useful.



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I am all for hands-free phones, but are you all really
telling me you can pay attention to the road with one
hand on the phone!?

I used to live in Chi-town and never a day didn't go by
where some jerk was going 45 gaggling on the phone and
holding people up. Hang it up -- or get a real phone.

Do you need a sign to tell you to tie your shoes?! For
crying out loud! Use some common sense.

Hurray CHicago -- finally you got something right!


Ex-chicagoan


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