http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/ Engadget Comments for Fake Steve Jobs gets takedown letters from Apple. Or not? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
Oh no, it never could be like The-Company-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named (***cough*** M$ ***/cough***)...]]>Dec 22nd 2007 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 24th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
Instead of caring about this at all, spend the time that you'd take to write a comment on this, helping someone. It will feel better than writing a comment. If you don't believe me, just try it once. That's all it takes. Trust me.]]>Dec 22nd 2007 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/]]>Dec 22nd 2007 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
For you patent trolls and prolific C&D senders, here's a quote:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
--From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)]]>Dec 22nd 2007 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
But then, with the latest post, and specifically the last bit about EFF telling him to "eff off" (har har):

"Their response: "We only help people we like. Good luck." Click. Dial tone."


I'm back to skeptical again. Funny thing is, if this IS satire, it's gonna be really hard for him to come out of this unscathed. He'll alienate a good portion of his readership, and I'm suspecting Apple then WILL have some legal grounds for something like slander.]]>Dec 22nd 2007 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
Anyway, I was saying that it's looking more and more like it was a hoax after all. Interesting comments at both FSJ's site about actual correspondence between his readers and RSJ (sjobs@apple.com) confirming this, as well as an EFF guy denying the EFF bit on /.

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=397462&cid=21795346
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I do, to a degree, agree with some of the commenters at FSJ calling all the "believers" retards, but I do believe there IS a line between satire and . . . well, I don't know the word, but between satire and "not satire."

And if a good portion, perhaps even the majority, of your readership who obviously are the types that do understand satire (they read his blog for crissakes) don't "get" it, then I do this he has crossed that line.

While I won't go all up in arms about it and certainly won't stop reading his blog (never planned to buy his book anyway), I'm not going to be with those who criticize or ridicule those readers who do.

Namaste. Peace out.]]>Dec 23rd 2007 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
and off topic : don't we see the same outrage with US citizens when their symbols are touched? ]]>Dec 23rd 2007 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
There's a distinction between an instance of satire against a recognisable group or person, and an ongoing one. Even satire can become harrassment and this case, he's using Steve Jobs' and Apple's name. Apple's name in particular is trademarked.

To make it worse, at first, the writer was NOT identifed as a writer from Forbes magazine. That came out later.

I wouldn't take it as given that his stuff is protected by first amendment rights: it's not really news and it's not specifically published in the context of news - and as I noted, the scope and volume of the posts may have drifted from satire to harrassment. And then there's possible trademark issues.]]>Dec 22nd 2007 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 22nd 2007 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
And, I think you are confusing the University of Michigan Index of Consumer Confidence with 'popular opinion' -- that's about as far as any half-way serious economist (that I know) would go with 'popular opinion.']]>Dec 24th 2007 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
If there's a vote on getting rid of this silliness, please count one vote for "trash it."]]>Dec 23rd 2007 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
1. Apple & their corporate tactics. From downright lies in their advertising to strong-arm business tactics. More and more they are a close-minded company creating overpriced & under performing junk. I will give then that they have a good design staff.

2. All the fan-boys who blindly follow Apple. Apple could lock them all in a room and gas them to death, and as each died they would still be praising Apple and justifying why their deaths are a good idea.


Now, don't get me wrong, I am no Microsoft lover either. Nor do I love Unix to a fault. See, I look at a computer and I see a tool. That is it. I might use this tool for business or pleasure, but it is just a tool. Do I get all rabid fanboy over Makita vs Black and Decker? Or how about join the zero other people lined up to purchase that PBX system for the office? And man, the throngs of followers in the ongoing light-switch war - who will come out on top?

Maybe Santa will bring us all a present, some clarity that these are, after all, just computers. If you think a pretty mac is worth the extra money, go for it. If you like the Vista stuff great! Just please stop defending the respective companies like they are your favorite sport team to the rest of us. These are large corporations that only care about getting your money. None of them are sending you a heartwarming holiday card. They just want to sell the cheapest product they can at the highest price they can.

]]>Dec 23rd 2007 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
Where are they? Why do they bother you so?

Or is it just that you don't like what a lot of other people do and the only reason you can think for that is "those other people must be mindless slaves?"]]>Dec 23rd 2007 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
Wow. I dread the day that we'll hear about you on the news. And, I don't think it will be pleasant news.]]>Dec 23rd 2007 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/1. Unless you work for Apple, your assumptions of their business practices are based on nothing more than speculation, rumor, and bias - and that even goes for assuming that they have a decent design staff, whereas you really have no idea what they outsource/hire outside firms to do. If you want to spew out anti-big-business socialist propaganda, don't target one company, fight the system, jeez.
2. People are taught from very early ages in many societies that their identity is based upon their beliefs. That then gets put into a 'team' mentality, where you're supposed to be on a side - there is only one right way. You're supposed to believe in your team no matter what, and if that is your favorite sports team, your political side, military branch, your OS platform, car manufacturer, whatever, it is supposed to be a part of who you are and define you. Some people may not care about sports teams, but care about an OS, or vice-versa. It's all the same mentality. So it's silly to debase people because they have passion for something because it differs from your belief system.
Some of us are comfortable enough with who we are to really not care if our personal preferences are lumped into that 'follower group' and called names by insecure trolls - including people who think that by refusing to do things because of their 'popularity' that somehow makes them unique or special, and not just pathetically overcompensating for wanting to be accepted and fit in. People are entitled to their opinions and should respect those of others without the stereotyping and prejudice that you display.]]>Dec 23rd 2007 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/He deserves what he gets.]]>Dec 23rd 2007 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/
I rarely found FSJ pieces to be funny. And why use a real name of a living person anyway?

FSJ should pick some neutral name e.g. "Apple's Chief Defunct Officer Blog" or whatever.

Abusing someone's else real name always was and is wrong.]]>Dec 23rd 2007 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/fake-steve-jobs-gets-takedown-letters-from-apple-or-not/Dec 23rd 2007 4:46PM