http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/ Engadget Comments for Netscape finally bows out, browsers no longer supported http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/I feel like I should be upset about this...]]>Dec 29th 2007 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)
Oh yea, there was no Engadget back then not even blogs just BBSs. "Does anyone remember laughter", I mean BBSs and 14.4 dial up?]]>Dec 29th 2007 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Why don't they give the Netscape brand to Mozilla and let them make it into a lightweight, super-easy version of Firefox (e.g. strip out the add-on functionality) with a better brand identity (at least to non-techies)?]]>Dec 29th 2007 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
*sigh* I remember the days of Netscape 1.xx

Seems like AOL just ran it into the ground. :(]]>Dec 29th 2007 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Yay!

Now if only IE would go the way of the dodo, I'd be ecstatic. ]]>Dec 29th 2007 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Hopefully every Windows user gets the chance to have it, and then you don't have to worry much anymore.]]>Dec 29th 2007 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
I'm confused...when did Hell freeze over?]]>Dec 29th 2007 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Hell froze over at exactly Dec, 19 2007

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx]]>Dec 29th 2007 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
If you code your pages with strict DOCTYPEs and use valid CSS almost all the major issues go away. But I guess people would rather complain than actually get work done and make a website that renders in IE and FF very, very easily.]]>Dec 29th 2007 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/WTF??? ]]>Dec 29th 2007 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
This world is such a cruel palce.]]>Dec 29th 2007 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ to give it a try. I use it all the time at work. I also recommend downloading the Pinball theme from http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ so it looks better.]]>Dec 29th 2007 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://nvu.com/]]>Dec 29th 2007 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad2]]>Dec 29th 2007 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 30th 2007 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
I remembered using it as my main web browser back in college.]]>Dec 29th 2007 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
If whats-his-face from the Mosaic project hadn't pissed off Microsoft with a way outta line public message about IE 3 & MS while he was at Netscape ('97? '98?), MS would not have turned around and poured many, many extra bukoo millions into development of 4,5, etc, and gone after Netscape's jugular.
This response from MS to that letter became known from an internal memo during the anti-trust proceedings.

Wish I could dig up the note he sent out right now. Perhaps someone else can... It was nasty, arrogant and condescending. It was the last thing you want to do when you have better product, but your competition has enough benjamins to burn to heat every house on the planet.

In the end, it was not AOL that killed Netscape. It was their lax administrative policy that put them on the road to death *before* AOL. ]]>Dec 29th 2007 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
You are 100% wrong.

First of all, it was NOT NCSA's Mosaic, which you may or may not have been meaning by using the word 'project'. It was the commercial firm Spyglass, who had collaborated with NCSA Mosaic to make a commerical browser for themselves called *Spyglass* Mosaic.

After the above happened, Microsoft made a deal with Spyglass Mosaic for the code. The deal was in two parts (as follows):

1) A quarterly fee for as long as MS produced a web browser based upon the *Spyglass* Mosaic code. This was paid up until IE 7, which MS had outside audited to ensure that there was no Spyglass code or derivatives within it.

2) IF Microsoft used the browser OUTSIDE of Windows, they then had to pay royalties in addition.

The only question is if MS ever used the browser _outside_of_Windows_. I do not know the answer to that. However, if they did, it must have been paid as I have no recollection of SpyGlass filing suit against MS for failing to pay the agreed upon royalty in the event of section #2.

It might seem strange to us today to think of a browser being used outside of an operating system. However, this was about '95 or so, and there was no doubt forward thinking on MS AND on Spyglass's part that a browser could possibly be a stand alone app with no need for an OS, such as possibly in an embedded enviroment.

So you see, no one cheated or swindled anyone. Spyglass was well aware that Microsoft had full rights to use the browser code as they saw fit *within* the Windows enviroment; again, without paying any royalty (contrary to what you said). To fulfill tht part of the bargain, all MS had to do was pay a quarterly fee, NOT a royalty.

Please do some research next time so that you do not inadverently add to the anti-MS hysteria.. . MS has had, and has, enough real problems that they created themselves to fulfill your implicit, yet unstated, desire to view them through feces-colored glasses.

And wash your mouth out as well. It makes you sound ignorant.]]>Dec 29th 2007 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Rest in peace, Netscape, for you died long ago.]]>Dec 29th 2007 4:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Peace and Love Netscape...Peace n Love...RIP]]>Dec 29th 2007 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/
Wait, what kind of words are those to say at its funeral? Err...]]>Dec 29th 2007 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/29/netscape-finally-bows-out-browsers-no-longer-supported/Dec 29th 2007 6:53AM