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It's nice to see Engadget (almost) admitting they were wrong about the Foleo.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
For that price why not purchase something like the eeePC and be done with it? Yes it would be nice to use an external keyboard and display on your smartphone but the applications and market for this device seem limited at best.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
The Foleo was a great idea but people dissed it because of its estimated price. Since when do you review anything based on price? Do high-end luxury cars get 1 or 2 star ratings simply because they're priced too high for most consumers? ]]>Jan 2nd 2008 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
I like Windows Mobile the most of the smartphone operating systems, but this thing needs to be closer to $200 to have any sort of real penetration. Smartphone companions cannot cost more than the smartphone, just as it's ludicrous to carry around a $1000 smartphone with a $500 laptop.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
As for the Celio, I suppose it has promise despite it's rather limited market. As for the price, it'll come down within 2 months of being released, guaranteed. ]]>Jan 2nd 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
Just because you don't personally like Windows Mobile, doesn't mean that others aren't allowed to like it.

There's nothing wrong with the UI. Perhaps it's just too complex for you to understand. Next time you buy a phone, might I suggest a Hello Kitty model?]]>Jan 2nd 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
I never said, nor intended my comment to infer, that others weren't allowed to like it. Just that they are stupid for doing so.

Make no mistake, it took me all of 2 minutes of use for me to 'understand' WinMo. BTW, when you say "complex" what exactly do you mean by it. It seems to me that the last thing I want to be complex is my cell phone. I understand with functionality comes complexity but that complexity shouldn't be evident in the top-level interface. Though I hesitate to mention it, this can be seen in the iPhone. Say what you want about the keyboard or what-have-you, in terms of the convergence of function and usability, you can't do better. This is where WinMo fails in glorious fashion.
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Pretty ignorant to be calling people Stupid simply because they like Windows Mobile.

Perhaps I'll call you a twat....maybe a wanker. Why? Why not? With your example, I don't think we need justifiable reasons to look down upon people.

As for dragging the iPhone into this topic, I own both and iPhone and a TyTN. Both have their strong points, both have their weaknesses. The TyTN is a much, MUCH more powerful device because of the OS, but having said that, it is not unnecessarily complex to use. If *YOU* can't find the grey matter to figure it out, perhaps (as I previously mentioned) you should opt for something a little simpler.

The iPhone is easy to use and anyone with half a brain can use it.....perhaps that's why you picked it up so easy.

Next time you open your mouth, have something intelligent to say.

WANKER!]]>Jan 2nd 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
Who are the asshats that keep coming up with answers to questions no one asked?!
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5/30/06: "We need a better Treo, or we need a Foleo or like device that replaces your Treo -- we don't want both. No ifs, ands, or buts. We already have a laptop, and when you consider the fact that this thing is about the size and weight of a Dell X1 (ok, maybe a little larger), the user just doesn't have a whole lot of reason to take one of these home."

9/4/07: "We are seriously not going to take credit for this, but holy crap, Palm just cancelled the Foleo, just like we asked them to!"

Now let's fast forward to today...

1/2/08: "It's not that we don't see the appeal of using a supplementary keyboard and display with our smartphones, rather, we simply felt that the Foleo was way overpriced for the relatively limited functionality it provided."]]>Jan 2nd 2008 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
You proved your ability to kill a product with the Foleo. That made you feel powerful, which I think you enjoyed. Some of use liked the combination of features that the Foleo was offering, but you stopped us from being able to get them. I now have a choice between an Eee, which has too small a screen, and something like a Toshiba R500-10U, which is too expensive. Please, don't kill this product. Maybe you don't want one, but don't stop me from getting one. Just because my needs are different from yours doesn't make me "wrong".
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Dunno if there's a market for it but I'm after a subnotebook style laptop to play Divx movies on the go & type out short notes. I'm thinking the Asus eeePC has it over this, (I do like the Linux OS too) but what about an eeePC with Win Mobile ... ?

Or maybe Apple with bring out something like this soon and claim to have invented the format ;)]]>Jan 2nd 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
http://mtux.com/

On screen view of the PDA and when minimized you can move the mouse all the way to the left and have a mouse cursor on the actual PDA screen... nice!]]>Jan 2nd 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
Read a few comments above where TJ calls everyone "Stupid" simply because they like Windows Mobile.

I think his comment wins the "Most Ignorant" award today. Mr. Bond's comment is a close 2nd though. :D]]>Jan 2nd 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
So what is the point of Win Mobile? In 2008, do we actually need a cut down windows that requires cut down apps to be recompiled/redesigned to run on over-priced hardware?

Oh. Wait. How about over-priced hardware with no SDK at all. Thank you Apple.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
hmm, could it be that palm got a insiders tip about this being around the corner and pulled the foleo? and is now planing a reworked foleo based on this tech?]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
Couldn't have said it better myself. :) I'm still putting this and the Foleo in the category of useless and redundant while being insufficient.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=56426159&lot_id=7788224

now thats a deal. ]]>Jan 2nd 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/it had a SSD of at least 16GB or 32GB
It ran windows or linux
It was able to use it's own 3g modem
It was a little cheaper
Just because it works with my phone (the phone pictured above) and makes it a little bigger, doesn't mean I'm going to buy it.]]>Jan 2nd 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
Wait an F'ING second! the Foleo was a freakin great price based on its ability!

Adam]]>Jan 2nd 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/Jan 2nd 2008 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.podtech.net/home/4807/celio-redfly-a-smartphones-mobile-companion]]>Jan 2nd 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/celios-redfly-platform-enables-foleo-like-winmo-devices/
As a mobile manager, I love the idea of pulling out something like this when I need to take a few notes or look up something on the web. I've already got the phone with me, and I really don't need to fire up the laptop.

I think that Palm's direction, putting a separate OS on the Foleo, was the mistake, not the concept, and the price point of the Foleo and the Redfly is a bit high, but I'm willing to pay to be an early adopter.]]>Feb 9th 2008 10:44AM