http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
HD-DVDs and Blue-Ray discs will be good for data backup, just like cd-r, dvd+r, etc... formats, we wont really care about what the blank media is because the drives will read/write all formats, blue ray and HD-DVD.

Just a thought.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/you, tsw...have no idea what you're talking about. if you really think that streaming media is a viable option right now...again, no idea what you're talking about. Name any internet provider which will allow you to receive, or rental service which has the capacity to stream at 25-35 MB/second. You'd have to have one hell of a buffer to allow you to do that.

If apples is a member of the BDA, i really can't see why they wouldn't release a BluRay only drive. Doing hd-dvd as well would be great for customers, it wouldn't alienate anyone...but since when have companies been interested in that. They're always interested in their bottom line, and their interests. As much as people like to think some companies like to please customers, they dont...they just want to keep customers happy enough to keep spending their money with them.

But apple being the odd company that they are; often regarded as the hippest of the group, and the leader of future innovation, adding a blu ray drive would help to change the mind of many of the apple zealots and others alike. To the person who said, "it doesn't matter if apple did this, the war will be won in the living room", to an extent thats true. But if you can change the way that someone thinks starting on their laptop/pc...generally that mindset will carry on to the living room, and suddenly buying that PS3, Sony, or Samsung standalone player to match suddenly doesn't sound like such a bad idea. ]]>Jan 3rd 2008 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
One thing I do know, Apple is a NEXUS. If Apple does something, all the sudden, the LAY people out there think its big news "best ever", "ultra sexy and stylish", BLAH BLAH BLAH and then they all start doing it.

Apple going Blu Ray will be the final nail in the HD-DVD coffin. ]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
Um, Apple was a supporter of DVD-R and didn't support DVD+R until 10.3 (and 10.2.8-ish). Not to say that I don't think it would be a good idea for Apple to install/support hybrid drives...just wanted to set the history straight that Apple was not a hybrid supporter in the DVD-/+R format war, I hope they don't repeat history.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=41644]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
And since when has NOT limiting a customers freedom of choice been a priority for Apple?]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
es if they start putting drives in their machines they are certain to support Blu-Ray but they would be wise not to ignore the requirements of their existing software. They really should add Blu-Ray support to DVD Studio and Xcode at the same time they go all gonzo for the hardware.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
But I still stand by my statement that since Apple is PART OF THE BLURAY GROUP they will support Bluray with their more visible products namely the Macs. Final Cut Pro is a very low key product for a niche market of professionals, its not for the masses.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
And for those saying Apple is part of the HD-DVD group could you please point out on this website (http://www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com/partners.html) where do you see the Apple logo? And while your at it check out this website (http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_developers) and see who developed bluray.

Let me give you a hint, Apple is nowhere to be found on the HDDVD site and Apple Inc. is the first one in the list at the Bluray site.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
I would guess they are going to go blue-ray but i dont think the tech is there to make it as slim as it should be.... maybe we will just see it in desktops for now??]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/ultraportable macbook pro + ssd + blu-ray + geforce 8800 + plays doom]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
SONY backs Blu Ray
Apple backs blu ray

Microsoft backs HDDVD

Sony and Apple are friendly to each other - and both are enemies of microsoft.

If you have major companies which carry so much consumer buying power flocking IN ONE DIRECTION OVER ANOTHER...then yeah...it does make a difference.
]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
You're wrong because Apple has far more sway in the world of innovation and change than their marketshare suggests. USB, Firewire, the death of the floppy drive, and countless technologies were helped to a huge extent by Apple.

But you're right because who the hell cares what format Apple choses? This war will be decided in the living room, not on the PC. And certainly not a 5-10% PC.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Ok so lets see:
First with GUI, everyone else follows
FIrst Mouse, everyone else follows
USB in iMac, wiki: "the iMac’s popularity and sole dependence on USB helped popularize the interface among third party peripheral makers, as evidenced by the many early USB peripherals that were made of translucent colored plastic to match the color schemes of the original iMac"
First wifi enabled laptop, ibook, everyone else follows
First 17 inch screen eveyone else follows
First USB mouse, everyone else follows
First to implement Bluetooth in OS and line of laptops
Built in cameras one of the first maybe sony did it first idk
First to give people palm rests on laptops by pushing the keyboard toward the screen
First to use trackballs in laptops
1988 - First CD-ROM Player ; Apple Computer ; Introduced in March
1991 - First Built-In CD-ROM ; Apple Computer ; Centris Line
1991 - First Built-In Video In-Out ; Apple Computer ; Quadra 800/AV
1991 - First Mainstream Voice Recognition (Standard in OS) ; Apple Computer ; Quadra 800/AV
1994 - First Trackpad ; Apple Computer
First Mainstream UNIX platform designed for use by end users ; Apple Computer ; OS X
2001 - First Built-In Consumer DVD Burning Capability ; Apple Computer ; G4 Minitower intoduced 1/9/01 as MWSF with "Superdrive" and iDVD
2003 - First 64-Bit Microprocessor-Based Desktop Personal Computer ; Apple Computer ; G5 with the IBM PowerPC 970 Processor, 1Ghz Frontside Bus and Hypertransport Introduced 6/23
2003 - First Personal Computer with Built-In Optical Audio ports ; Apple Computer ; Afore-mentioned G5. Introduced 6/23
the list goes on but you get the idea :)

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"just because apple was first to do all of those things you mentioned they still had little affect on the technology succeeding...pretty much anything you listed on your list only became popular because PC stole the idea and gave it to the masses. Yes apple is more innovative but as for a new optical drive succeeding on a computer, it will be decided by a computer (PC) that has around 90% of the market share, not apple."


ye.... exactly what would you call an "effect"??? Apple is the trendsetter what they do people follow. ]]>Jan 5th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 4th 2008 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
"Again...apple may be a trendsetter but with microsoft showing backing to HD-DVD over blu ray and blu ray drives already being offered on PC, mac choosing blu ray will have little to no effect on who wins or looses the format war. Now if MS decided to only support HD drives or only BLU drives on PCS that would have a huge effect and could change things drastically. But most likely dual format drives will be the ones to go with on PC"

well you see Microsoft..... does not make hardware....... so its the other companies like dell Sony and HP that matter and being that they do what apple does........... ]]>Jan 5th 2008 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
I know it isn't their top priority, but I'd buy an apple tv or a mac mini in a heartbeat if they had blu-ray. If both had it, I don't know which I'd get... but that would be a god problem.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
especially since we might be seeing itunes video rentals in the not too distant future]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
Apple knows they can end the format war. They're so popular with the "hipsters" that they know they could turn their opinion on the formats simply by throwing one into their macs.

Disney... Apple... Blu-ray Consortium... 'nuff said.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 4th 2008 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/ultraportable macbook pro + ssd + blu-ray + geforce 8800 + plays doom"

only $4999.99]]>Jan 3rd 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/03/netflix-and-hd-a-drm.html

FTA: I recently purchased a new HD monitor, but when I installed it, I lost the streaming capabilities on Netflix's website. When I tried to troubleshoot the issue, I had to agree to let Netflix "reset my DRM" by destroying my Amazon.com files. After talking with Netflix's technical support, I learned that the real issue had to do with the HD capabilities of my PC setup. Because Hollywood wants to punish people for using technology that is outside of their protocol, they are denying me access to low resolution internet videos until I downgrade my monitor to standard definition.

As if DRM isn't evil enough already, I now have to give up access to files I've already bought and even then might not be allowed access unless I have specific approved HD equipment that allows Hollywood to control how I consume my media content. I understand that content owners want to be able to charge for their content, but something is wrong when their DRM won't even allow you to pay to use their product.



The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.

The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.

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Final Cut Pro does not "support" Blu-Ray or HD-DVD format DVDs. Final Cut Pro is a video editing program, not a DVD creation program.]]>Jan 3rd 2008 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/]]>Jan 3rd 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 3rd 2008 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-bringing-blu-ray-macs-to-macworld/Jan 14th 2008 7:26PM