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Even though they said they were prepared. ]]>Jan 4th 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
XBOX Live is down?! O RLY?!]]>Jan 4th 2008 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
A denial service of attack is a deliberate attempt to "deny service". Normal users are trying to "use the service".]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
However, anything is possible.

I also believe that a DDOS is a better escape goat than too many users. Blame some mythilogical basment dweller...
M]]>Jan 4th 2008 3:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
That is too awesome.]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
had to say it out loud in fact

"escape goat"

loled again]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/n noun
1 a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings or mistakes of others.
2 (in the Bible) a goat sent into the wilderness after the Jewish chief priest had symbolically laid the sins of the people upon it (Lev. 16).
n verb make a scapegoat of.

ORIGIN
from archaic scape 'escape' + goat.
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So it does come from escape goat anyway which makes it a bit irrelevant if someone uses the proper word 'scapegoat'
]]>Jan 4th 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/But you linguists would know better I guess.
]]>Jan 4th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 5th 2008 5:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 10th 2008 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
Surely that Major Nelson guy who claims to be the face of Xbox Live should be fired by now... 2 Weeks downtime for a paid service is very poor indeed.

My bet is that we all get 200 points (meaning we'll need to add more points to actually buy something)]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
The service looks to be up and running correctly now. Fingers crossed.]]>Jan 4th 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/"hey, we screwed up, heres a free game"
enough said
(back to COD4!!!!)]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
There are plenty of articles here that don't interest me. I just don't click them. And I certainly don't take the time to post in the comments section :)]]>Jan 4th 2008 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
You also say "but mostly down". Care to give us some stats on that? You have been continuously updating us with the status of LIVE, so you must have some hard facts to back that up. Was it (being you used the word "mostly") 51%, 60%, 70%, .. etc? You must know, so give us the stats.

After this site caused the drop in apple stock, you would think that you would be a bit more careful with your rumors, but this is Microsoft, and knowing your track history, anything you can do to knock them down a bit is all good-ness. Right?]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 4:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
John Alden, Vice President of Business Development for GameRail , a private network service that enhances the performance of online multiplayer games, says "Every time you log on as a first-time user you're getting software updates." He also states, "Just like with any software you buy, the first thing it does is run home to mama for an update. The initial onslaught of Halo 3 players saturated the network with updates, which are fairly large files."


http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=142220]]>Jan 4th 2008 4:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
I had the holidays off and played online almost every day. Only one day did I encounter any real problems from here in Toronto. At the same time, a friend only a couple of kilometres away had issues much more frequently (and sometimes at the same time as me).]]>Jan 4th 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
who are you to make this comment?]]>Jan 4th 2008 6:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
I also slightly agree with him/her]]>Jan 4th 2008 7:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/And failing because something you did yourself is generally considered more embarrassing
]]>Jan 4th 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
Now for # two. I would say that by mostly down, he means "most of the time when I tried to log on, XBL was down", not "We were told that the network was down X% of the time." I would say this constitutes a proper use of the phrase "mostly down"

And for three. I wasn't checking Engadget when the Apple thing went down, but from what I see, there was no deffinitive proof that the stock dropped specifically because of Engadget (I could believe that, but I'm speaking objectively there). Subjectively, it looks like an acceptable possibility, but I don't think that it was on purpose. The research I've done on it (not too much mind you), says that it was indeed a mistake, and that as soon as Engadget saw that they were wrong they corrected the erronious info. I don't think that in twenty minutes, enough stock holders saw the post and immediately sold their stock. If so, it's amazing how fast word from one website spread so far and wide. Also, knowing that Engadget will update posts, shouldn't one wait to see if there are any updates before selling stock? all in all, on the stock issue I don't think Engadget is solely to blame for the Apple stock drop, and that the incident may have produced a few nit-pickers.]]>Jan 4th 2008 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
think before you type.
I'll say it again
think before you type.]]>Jan 4th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
I think you misunderstood. The only defensive tact that I was taking was explaining in why I used the tone I used in my original post - taking the most extreme position possible in much the same way that many people have commented that Ryan uses in his posts. My response to you was in no way meaning to be against you, but was said in the most sincere way possible. If you think that I was talking to you in that way, then I do apologize.]]>Jan 4th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
http://www.xboxlivesucks.com

:D]]>Jan 4th 2008 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
Coincidence?

My guess is that they underestimated the take-up of this offer, and it was so vastly over-subscribed it brought the servers to their knees.

Microsoft are being coy because they don't want us all to know that the much trumpeted, all-new HD video download service they launched in europe over xmas is anything less than a flawless new content delivery system, the dawn of a new age if you will. I, for one, would be interested to know just exactly how many users took up that offer. BTW, I did, and my download finally finished last night, a full six days after I bought it.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
1. The game (multiplayer specifically) has had a huge popularity spike over the last month, as evidenced by the total number players online across the server and playlists.

2. The game downloads and uploads a bunch of data every time you start multiplayer, find a match, get a match, etc. It must be a bandwidth nightmare for Live, especially with more and more players online.

3. COD4 is the only specific game still (somewhat) shitting the bed on Live.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/]]>Jan 4th 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/]]>Jan 9th 2008 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/Jan 4th 2008 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/debunk-xbox-live-was-down-but-not-due-to-ddos-attack/
Now think really hard why. Come on. You can do it. Now go watch Office Space.]]>Jan 4th 2008 12:12PM