http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
Putting a high price tag on it doesn't make it prosumer]]>Jan 6th 2008 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
You know, I, too, would argue that this is not a real pro camera.

But also SLRs are not automatically pro cameras. Neither are small-sensor-cameras (which others, for all the wrong reasons, tend to call point-and-shoot-cameras) automatically not pro cameras (Canon G9, Ricoh GR digital one and two, Lumix LX1 and LX2 and some others, I'm looking in your direction). Moreover, there are cameras that are not SLRs, but that are nevertheless considered (and always have been) pro tools. (Rangefinders anyone? Like the Leica M8?)

But you are right about one thing: the "prosumer" category is a very strange category. I wouldn’t want to call myself a prosumer, even if I may very well own what some might very well try to sell to me as a prosumer camera (GRD II). Even though I do not earn any money with my camera. It’s just a hobby. Maybe I would be ready to call myself an enthusiast. Clearly, some term is needed to describe the difference between point-and-shoots and so called prosumer cameras. Well, I know it when I see it, so I guess I might not need any fancy labels.]]>Jan 6th 2008 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
To me, most of the cameras you listed *are* prosumer cameras, but I do not beleive this is. Things like the Leica's are prosumer because they house fantastic quality lenses, the ricoh for similar reasons, but this seems to be a total gimmick.

Personally its neither here nor there. If you want a decent camcorder, you buy a decent camcorder. If you want a decent camera, you buy a decent camera! ]]>Jan 6th 2008 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
On the other hand, super-zooms also found their market. And to me at least, those cameras also seemed very goofy. I can see those people buying super-zooms also buying a camera like this. (Hm. If they have some spare money. Quite some.)

But the specs aren’t that bad. And Casio always produced cameras with a decent handling (that are also very well built). Not the best when it comes to things like manual control, but certainly also not the worst. To me, Casio cameras never really felt like the real deal when it comes to cameras. They always had this slightly odd and different approach to digital cameras (it may very well be that this is just something I’m making up, because until less than four or so years ago I only knew them for their watches and calculators).

Nevertheless, if those 6 MP are useable at high iso speeds (6 MP seem to be just perfect for that.) and with f2.7 at 7.3 mm (BTW. what’s the 35 mm equivalent to that?) and f4.6 at telephoto this could turn out to be a decent low light shooter. And if you then also like making movies or even high-speed movies, this is your camera.]]>Jan 6th 2008 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
thx!]]>Jan 6th 2008 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
Now if you are referring to the 1200fps mode, then yes, there are some of us who would really like to be able to shoot our own super slow motion videos. Every camera doesn't have to be made to please the lowest common denominator.]]>Jan 6th 2008 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/Jan 6th 2008 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
The high frame rate at full resolution (60fps for 1s = 60 frame buffer) and 'pre-trigger' (the shutter release *stops* the camera and saves shots up to that point) are great, and the slow-mo movies (300fps at SDTV-ish resolution) For a small sensor camera, 6MP is a good tradeoff between noise and resolution, and with f/2.7 at 36mm equivalent, it's relatively fast. It has some other entertaining features, too, like 1/40000 shutter speeds.

The apparent lack of image stabilization is the one thing that bothers me. I'd like a wider zoom, but 36-432mm equivalent is par for the course in SuperZooms.]]>Jan 7th 2008 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/One important question though: Anyone know about the shutter responsiveness, startup times, etc. If it was operationally fast, that would be really nice. In fact, that could be the deal breaker.]]>Jan 7th 2008 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/casio-gets-official-with-the-ex-f1-60fps-prosumer-camera-camco/
It appears the frame rate is adjustable, there are references in the specs to 60fps, 5fps (which gives you 12 seconds of buffer) and 7fps flash photography.

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