http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/ Engadget Comments for Live coverage from the Philips press event http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/possibly the most gimmicky thing ever.]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/You are talking about a brand that is among top innovative companies in ideas, research and products for both the medical and consumer electronic market.
I dont know what planet you have been on but am sure you have heard of the AUREA LCD tv which is both technologically and aesthetically impressive and am pretty sure it is categorized as a first-class product.
Their ambisound theatre systems received great reviews and awards.
Am not going start listing every single impressive products they have released into the market but Phillips is one of the few technology companies that do not sacrifice any key element in their products from design, ergonomics, to functionality all wrapped up with great innovation. so next time be sure of what you say before you make a conclusion based on everyday items like light bulbs and irons.

P.S i know that i might have come across as a fanboy but that is not the case here. i am only recognizing a company that truly excels and pushes for high standards with their products. ]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
Says who?

Philips pretty much flys under the radar when it comes to electronics in general, which is why they are a 2nd or 3rd tier consumer electronics company.

Top LCD companies are obviously Sony, Sharp and Toshiba, but I would also put Samsung, LG and Vizio above Philips in that market.

Top plasma would Pioneer and Panasonic, but I would again put Samsung, LG and Vizio above Philips in that market.]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
You are right, you sure do sound like a fanboy on a rant.

I will say it again, for consumers prducts, Philips is 2nd or 3rd tier. They may have helped developed technologies, but their consumer products are just your run of the mill entry level products. In the word of HT, there is hardly anyone who knows their stuff that would consider purchasing Philips products for their setup.

Other than the Philips Pronto remote, there is not a single HT product that Philips currently puts out (or has for the past 5+ years) that I would even want in my home theater. In ever facet, display, speakers, receiver, pre-amp, amp, DVD, HDM, PVR and media stream... there are better companies with better prducts for the money.]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2008/01/05/Philips-Aurea-42PFL9900D-42in-LCD-TV/p1]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/samsung and sony sell the same screens.]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
TROLL ALERT! quickly wack him with THE trollicide of STFU!!

Even if i was a fanboy, at least i know that i am supporting a company that make good electronics but with your last comment, there is no point trying to argue with you.

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You do realize that people buy electronics in other countries right? Go to Europe and call Philips 2nd or 3rd tier. You would be laughed at by their technophiles. And I said best under $1500 because of where I work. I get to stare at, play with, and sell all the tvs you mentioned plus Philips and their new stuff just cleans up in that price category.]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
Whatever makes you sleep at night...

@Dustin Frazier

I don't care about any other market other than the US market. Until I can buy products here and use them here, they don't really matter to me or the entire populous of the US market for that matter of fact. It is great if they do have better products in other market, but to be consider a 1st tier CE you kind of need to release those products in more than one market or at least important markets.]]>Jan 6th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
Ok......I will add to what I wrote above. Where I work, HERE in the USA, it is my opinion that Philips is the best for under $1500. Many review sites will also agree with me including some of Cnet's reviews. Their new 42" in particular has black levels that can't be touched for the price range. Ambilight sucks but not because it was a bad idea but because it was problem prone. If you get a set without Ambilight you will also get a very problem free set as evidenced from the almost zero service calls my company does for Philips. But you rated Vizio above Philips.....so yeah, you know almost nothing.]]>Jan 6th 2008 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
This is not to say they don't have good products. Just that in every typical US consumer metric, they are not even close to the top. What most Americans end up seeing are crappy Philips value lines, because they're the only ones price competitive, making them seem 2nd / 3rd tier in the US market.

I suspect they do better in Europe because heavy import duties kill the value proposition of Asian brands and probably superior European support give them mindshare there.]]>Jan 7th 2008 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
for instance if you're in the market for a high-end 1080p lcd in Europe you will probably be looking at a sony bravia or a philips cineos...]]>Jan 6th 2008 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/I think not being an asian company works against them outside of Europe.]]>Jan 6th 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
I'm an American and I do care about what happens in other markets. So are a lot of other Engadget readers who don't live in the USA. I'm in Germany.

If a company like Philips makes good products here, they may bring them to the US where you could get excited aobut them too. Given the current exchange rate, I'm not surprised that the price is less competive.

Philips makes good products including lighting - my whole office is done lit by Philips technology.]]>Jan 6th 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/Jan 6th 2008 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/ Top LCD companies are obviously Sony, Sharp and
> Toshiba, but I would also put Samsung, LG and
> Vizio above Philips in that market.

> Top plasma would Pioneer and Panasonic, but I
> would again put Samsung, LG and Vizio above
> Philips in that market.

Zargon - it's not your fault you are ignorant of the LCD market and are familiar only with the most heavily marketed companies. Philips produce some of the best LCD sets bar none because of their investment in picture quality technology (Pixel Plus HD etc.) but they're not as heavily marketed or have the same cache as Sony et al which is why you are unfamiliar with them (and consequently dismiss them).

Do some research and discover that some of the less well known players in the market actually produce better quality gear, Philips being a case in point.]]>Jan 6th 2008 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/live-coverage-from-the-philips-press-event/
Last year Philips won the EISA European award for the HIGH-END LCD TV of the year. Hardly 2nd/3rd tier I would say!

See:
http://www.eisa-awards.org/history/2006-2007/video.html

It also won 18 Awards at the 2008 CES]]>Jan 9th 2008 8:24AM