http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/ Engadget Comments for Apple updates Xserve -- "most powerful Apple server ever" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
I'm a mac person which makes me one eyed, no less than the other camp though, who in this forum just epitomise why a person like myself would buy a mac, you guys, and all the 'white coats' (the IT people who make a living out of administering servers) are full of shit. You should all be in politics with the ego's you have.

I just want the best system for my dollar. I'm not an IT person by trade but even I can set up (as you would have it), 'a pathetic mac' server. I don't have 'the brains' for the other brands. But then who gives a crap, your 'flat earth' comments show up the denial you are practising. If I wanted to run the world with one server then yeah I'd go buy one of your non mac options, I expect one of you has a commodore 64 that's faster, big f'ing deal, my dad's a space man. How old are you??

Anyway, carry on with your mutual masturbation and back patting. I found there were some comments which were worth reading, sparsely scattered amongst the mass of pathetic commentary. I would gladly invest in a non mac server if it weren't going to be administered by such a bunch of toady IT tossers, but, you're still all out there, pedalling your crap, just go away back into your little worlds.

Ech, white coats, they make me sick, parasites feeding off of real people.]]>Feb 5th 2008 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Hmm.]]>Jan 8th 2008 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Are you kidding? I think Apple was made for servers! They're unfeasably expensive, unimaginably powerful and you know you're never going to get one!]]>Jan 8th 2008 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
Apple servers are barely scarping by in the lower tiers of servers, which would be reflected by their cheap price.

If you need some real server power, Apple wouldn't be able to hold a candle. For instance our VMWare infrastructure, a Apple server couldn't even dream of running that. ]]>Jan 8th 2008 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
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Currently spec out servers for our roll out of System Center Operations Manager and Configuration Manager. Looking at HP DL360 (1U) and HP DL380 (2U), which both seem to support more features and overall more robust.

I can't really think of a reason to run a Apple server other than having Apples on the network, but even then, you don't need it and there are just as good solutions to run them on a Windows or Linux server.]]>Jan 8th 2008 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
The ones we have at my work have zero on-board video. When (not if) they break, Apple's support is dismal. At least up to about a year ago they couldn't have cared less about these servers from a support standpoint.

Now we buy MD1000s from Dell.]]>Jan 10th 2008 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Sure you can serve OS X from a linux or Windows machine, but why?]]>Jan 8th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
Ours doesn't have to be restarted as often or go down as easily as our Dell and IBM servers.

I just wish my XServe/XRaid installation was done that neatly :(]]>Jan 8th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
No offense, but if your Dells and IBM's are going down regularly, you're doing something wrong.

Uptime a problem with these machines? Get real.]]>Jan 8th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/I wonder if the Penryn will help lower the heat output to the point where the Apple servers will stop warping and sagging in the middle because they used too soft of an aluminum.
Yes, XServe's warp because they were poorly engineered. Clearly a wise choice for a server.]]>Jan 8th 2008 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
How far can apple's marketing go at milking their fanbase? How about an etched name or node ID plate for a bargain $199? $25 for 2 lines or $49 for 3 lines of text with choice of font? $9.99 to have it preattached?]]>Jan 8th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 18th 2008 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
The hardware specs might not be on par with what Dell and HP are offering but the software is what makes the difference. Windows can't even come close to the stability of OS X Server.

We just finished installing 1 rack completly loaded with Xservers and 3 racks completly loaded with Xserve Raids in our biology department. They are linked together using Xsan software.

Once the custom software is installed it will be one of the most powerful bio-simulators in the region.]]>Jan 8th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/
Just like a guy said earlier in the comments, if you're having issues with stability using Dell blades, you're doing something wrong.

I've seen Dell servers slammed by millions of college admissions from across the nation and not even break a sweat. You know what brings it down? An idiot manager who tries to upgrade it without reading any documentation.]]>Jan 8th 2008 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 8th 2008 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/While it might be a big 8 cores within 1U is that really that much.

Compared with a IBM Bladecentre its not - 9u gets you 14 blades each
dual quad core..that's 112 cores in 9U ~ 12.4 cores per U i.e. 50%
more!

And anyone who has blades crashing on them needs their IT guys
trained or sacked as they should be rock solid (I know ours have
been)]]>Jan 8th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/apple-updates-xserve/Jan 11th 2009 2:51PM