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In a nutshell, the screen size and the processor power of the smartphones just don't cut it for all the apps that I use my PDA for.]]>Jan 31st 2008 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Mar 19th 2008 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Would you please resurrect your HP Jornada instead!]]>Jan 17th 2008 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
HP does not support their products. You will see no software updates and will not see many if any patches. I have had a couple HPs and despite a nice design and sometimes a plethora of features they could not pay me to use another one of their PDA/Smartphones. Buyer beware.]]>Jan 17th 2008 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
Completely agree. I own old HP iPAQ PDA and was really pissed off when I have found out that HP did not support firmware upgrade to newer Windows version. Too bad. Other devices (HTC for example) provide upgrades but not HP.

The hardware is really good though. They usually include CF or SDIO interface, WiFi and screen is bright (expensive models have 640x480 resolution).

No phone in the $450 is, hm... too bad. You can get HTC PDA phone for this price, or iPhone.]]>Jan 18th 2008 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
my 1/50th of a dollar..]]>Jan 17th 2008 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
I hope it wasn't my 20 that put them over the top. :)]]>Jan 18th 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
Um, hello. The iPod Touch doesn't have dual memory card slots. The iPod's screen is half the resolution of the iPaq 210's. The iPaq has a microphone but the iPod Touch does not. The iPaq has a user-repaleable battery. The iPod Touch may have a slicker interface and better web browser, etc., but the iPaq still has quite a few features that your precious little iPod does not.]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
And yes, your Touch has a lot of things this has... in HARDWARE, but on the iP-od/hone you barely have 3rd party apps... while on the PPC you can make 3D objects out of the void on a CAD software, make an animation out of them, add synthetized sound and compress it to DivX right on the palm of your hand... good luck doing that with your Touch]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
And yes, your Touch has a lot of things this has... in HARDWARE, but on the iP-od/hone you barely have 3rd party apps... while on the PPC you can make 3D objects out of the void on a CAD software, make an animation out of them, add synthetized sound and compress it to DivX right on the palm of your hand... good luck doing that with your Touch]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Okay, so what if he replaced "iPod Touch" with "iPhone"? Uh huh. Yes. PDAs are dead. Smartphones are not. I don't think many (with the exception of you) are going to pay $450 for an HP PDA. ]]>Jan 17th 2008 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
If I am going out, I don't want to carry the bulk of a smart phone. I have a w880i which is thin and fits snugly in my pocket. I make calls with it and forget it is there when I am not using it for what it was designed for (ie. making calls :)

i am actually considering buying this for the above reasons. I want a big screen, fast processor and lots of memory with options (SD/ CF) but I want it in a size that won't bother me when I am going out. Don't think so.]]>Jan 18th 2008 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
I carry a Treo 700WX and an iPaq hx4700. I use the iPaq for things that require screen real estate like watching video, reviewing MS Office docs, etc. The tiny screen (and low memory) on the Treo is no good for this at all. I also have a BT keyboard and mouse (that I use on both) a CF/NIC, and WiFi on the iPaq. I use the Treo for calls, PIM, email, and web (I'm not paying a tether fee to use the iPaq, nor am I wanting to hack my Treo).

It's a decent combination, but there's just no single convergent device that does everything that I want it to do.]]>Jan 18th 2008 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/The iPhone still doesn't offer the iPaq features that I mentioned. It's still just an iPod Touch but with a phone and camera and better software (oh, and less storage space, too). I don't like paying cell companies for phone service that I don't need on my PDA (besides, what smartphone can meet the screen size/resolution and other hardware specs of the iPaq 210 for a similar price range?).]]>Jan 18th 2008 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
Memory

Memory: 128 MB SDRAM
Flash memory: 256 MB Flash ROM

Also of interest, the Display information: 4.0-inch Transflective color TFT 480 x 640 pixel touch screen with LED backlight.]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
HP - Count my order in :-D]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
Can you tether, IM, SSH, VNC, play games, view web pages with flash using your iPod Touch? So stop comparing your locked down device with an 3rd-party apps friendly one.]]>Jan 18th 2008 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
And yes, I use standalone PDAs.... rank me low, but I hate phones... I REALLY hate phones (not for being phones, but for making the companies almost stop making non-phone devices)... some of us have serious 1-man business where a powerful (ie. not just to watch videos and edit documents) yet pocket-sized device is required, and are not looking for another contract to pay (I don't have anyone to talk with either)

So until UMPCs fit in my pocket as easily as my palm LifeDrive, screw smartphones, welcome PDAs like this :-)]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/


..among other things. =D]]>Jan 17th 2008 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
I no longer use the PDA for PIM stuff. That's all done with my Blackberry 8830 and my iPhone. I hope within a few months of the release of the iPhone SDK I can retire the Blackberry.

The iPaq 210 looks great. If it could only be a phone -- with 3G. And iPhone interface.
]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/(Someone has also just finished their design of a tiny hsf (err... no fan) for these processors, as well)

I tried, in vain, to find links to these articles, but I was unable to find them. You'll have to search for yourself :/]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/(Someone has also just finished their design of a tiny hsf (err... no fan) for these processors, as well)

I tried, in vain, to find links to these articles, but I was unable to find them. You'll have to search for yourself :/]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
Have you ever looked at the processors of the other PDAs/smartphones? Most are slower

Heck, this is even 4MHz faster than the iPhone.. (and has the same ARM architecture)... (yes I know, 4MHz means nothing on this age.. but if you respect the iphone, you better don't blame this :-P )]]>Jan 17th 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/
I resisted the change from PDA to smartphone, thinking that a BT PAN was sufficient, but once I got my first smartphone, there was no looking back!]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/hps-ipaq-210-shakes-off-numerous-delays-finally-available/Jan 17th 2008 7:38PM