http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/ Engadget Comments for Researchers put circuits on contact lenses, freak out rabbits http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
How do they power them anyway? A lithium battery that can explode?]]>Jan 17th 2008 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Wireless power would work fine in this case.]]>Jan 17th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
But when these come out, I guess I'll have no excuse not to switch....besides how well my glasses and beard go together...]]>Jan 17th 2008 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/

hang on, is this intended to light up people's eyes?
if so, all they need is a voice flanger and an evil-overlord-complex and we'll have Goa'uld!]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
You, my friend, are made of win.]]>Jan 18th 2008 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 18th 2008 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 18th 2008 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Medicine is different, you always get all sorts of unpredictable side effects. Designing the shape of contacts is pure objective math and physics.]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/As Zorque said, i also think that no rabbit got harmed during the test of this new technology (at least, i hope it).. nevertheless i always feel "uncomfortable" when i see animals used in some kind of experiment...]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Well how about you put your money where your mouth is, and give up all modern medicine and pharmaceuticals. Like it or not, but every single current and future medical procedure, drug etc, etc, has been or will be tested on animals - and you hypocritically live from all of these advancements. Even the "Pit of Despair" has had beneficial effects over the long term...... even as horribly distasteful as the initial experiments were.

So next time you think of knocking something that could genuinely advance humanity and benefit a huge number of people, perhaps look in your own backyard first.]]>Jan 18th 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
And no, I'd not miss the drugs if they suddenly disappeared

I'm into alternative med, no drugs here.. And yes, you can heal your eyes with alternative... Actually, it saved me from astigmatism, you just have to stop being a skeptic a--hole and try it... if you still don't like it after trying, then you'll be a non-butthole skeptic]]>Jan 18th 2008 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 18th 2008 2:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
...well, as far as i know there are alternatives to the experimentation on animals.

I read an article a while ago about simulating the effect of drugs using just computers... they said that this way would be more effective because it can represent exactly the interaction between drugs and humans, instead of using animals which are in fact too different from us...

...BUT, experimenting on animals is a business:
-probably this is the cheaper way to test drugs for pharmaceutical companies
-there are companies which business is to grow up and sell experimental animals
So, sadly, i don't think anything is going to change soon...

Please, just don't think there is no alternative...!!]]>Jan 18th 2008 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
PiZ: You read an article once? Well, lets weigh that up against my PhD and numerous years of research experience.......

Alternatives are part of an integrated approach - nothing more, nothing less. You use them when you can; the rest of the time you use animals directly. Simply put, you can't exclusively run simulations because it is impossible to do without having masses of relevant real-world data in the first place. You can't use cells in culture exclusively, because it is impossible to exactly recreate the integrated response of tissues, systems and organs.]]>Jan 18th 2008 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Like testing on humans?

Humans are animals too, though most people seem to forget it.

Any product that will be used by humans WILL be tested on animals, at least when the first human uses it.]]>Jan 18th 2008 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
You mock people who say that animal experiments make them feel uncomfortable, so it appears you have a serious problem. I suspect that your years of performing animal experiments have diluted your humanity. I also have a PhD, but I don't think it makes my ethics any more correct than someone who doesn't have one. Remember that Dr Mengele's experiments extended his MD and PhD research...]]>Jan 18th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
And yes, I know this is not the kind of problems this technology wants to solve.. but then again, we can already solve anything, if you thing the alternative methods "barely kinda work", you're plain wrong. If this technology is meant to enhance humans of something and not to solve problems at all, then I only have these words: It will end up going bad. We didn't come to this world to physically enhance ourselves.

Either way, let the animals be. Just like they would let you be (if it wasn't because you are a threat for them - and they know it.)]]>Jan 18th 2008 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/"cellular thermodynamics FTW!..."

Your ignorance and degree of opt-in to borderline-conspiracy-theory idiocy is beyond my ability to describe in only twenty-three words.

That said, I think of animal testing as a regrettable necessity. Until such time as we can simulate it completely, animal testing will have to continue.

And I'm sure the rabbits didn't even notice. They're rabbits, after all. They're stupider than cats, and cats have no forebrain.]]>Mar 14th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Sorry for terrible joke, my bad.]]>Jan 17th 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Your logic is a bit fuzzy (no pun intended). All the answer to this question shows is what the asker believes is more important, not what is actually more important. If you don't believe me, ask this question: If you could save the life of one of the following, which would it be? A mother responsible for the care of 5 kids not related to you, or your own wife responsible for the care of your own child?

Questions about moral judgements are questions about suffering. Since suffering is subjective, the morality of the choice made to alleviate suffering is also subjective. To pretend that it is 'self-evident' that your moral judgement is the absolutely correct one is not logically justifiable. Here's another great question, for fun: You must press one of two buttons - one will direct poison gas into room one, containing a despotic historical dictator (take your pick). The other contains a service dog and/or a mother rabbit and her bunnies. Which do you choose? Is your choice now 'self-evident'? I personally know what I would choose, and I also know there is nothing self-evident about it - it is a subjection based on a value assessment derived from logical evaluation, based on my personal feelings and experience.]]>Jan 17th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Sorry - grammatic error here: I (self-evidently) mean that the other ROOM, not the other BUTTON, contains the dog and/or bunnies. Sorry for the screw-up there.]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
I strain to believe that a rabbit would have any concept of the same moral understanding that would save that rabbit's life. Rabbits don't have the ability to cognitive thought which humans do. In my mind, pain is 90% mental and the suffering of impending death has more to do with understanding it's coming rather than dealing with as it takes place. Rabbits have no idea that death is approaching until it's cute, fuzzy feet touch the boiling water (sorry but it was the only analogy I could come up with). This may be, and probably is, a bit of a stretch for the opposing view but had it not been for the success of human understanding, rabbits wouldn't be as widespread throughout the world as they are today which means scientists in Europe wouldn't be able to experiment on them at all. Rabbits were only introduced to Europe when the settlers brought them back from America.

Longer story short, if it weren't for rabbits or any experimental animals for that matter, we wouldn't have anywhere near an understanding of the world that we enjoy today.

But again, just my opinion. I wish now I could have worded that a bit differently. Oh well...]]>Jan 17th 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
Also, in a related way, I don't feel that killing dogs can possibly warrant a jail sentence, though it is still reprehensible and says quite a bit about character.]]>Jan 17th 2008 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 17th 2008 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/
That's a nice opinion. Unfortunately, my comment is very relevant relating to the 'self-evident' nature of DT's faulty argument. That you have decided you are correct because you 'strain to believe' that you might be incorrect is a similarly faulty premise. All you've done is (more eloquently) restated the exact thing that DT did.

If rabbits had 'no idea death is coming', they would have been selected out long ago. That you fail to realize that indicates that you don't have a lot of experience with animals in general, nor any particular understanding of their unique but valid motivations.

Likewise, we can see cognition in several animal species (although I am unaware of any study focusing on Rabbits). Birds do it, as do some breeds of dog. Wolves, and their genetic cousins the bears, most certainly cognate - wolves in particular as well as some young children. Yet because you think that YOU hold some special, privileged space in the evolutionary hierarchy, you think that whatever you do to an animal can be pshawed away.]]>Jan 17th 2008 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/researchers-put-circuits-on-contact-lenses-freak-out-rabbits/Jan 18th 2008 12:05AM