http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/ Engadget Comments for Apple says WiFi-equipped iPods are the wave of the future... maybe http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Apple hasnt ripped off the zune here, most PMPs have had wi-fi for years now
Im just annoyed it took them this long...

Bring wi-fi to the classic
I still wont buy it for my life, but atleast then its worth SOMETHING more than the video
Zune FTW

Still, Was Steve Jobs inebriated when coming with that zune remark?]]>Jan 23rd 2008 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 23rd 2008 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Yeah...here's the wave...
"BYE BYE"


-Sam Kinison]]>Jan 23rd 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Various Internet traffic metrics have shown that iPhone and iPod touch users surf the Web more than other mobile devices' users, despite the fact that they didn't even exist a year ago. It proves that a feature itself does not necessarily facilitate utilization. But when it's done right, you open a new door to the masses.

So it's not really about WiMax or 3G, at least not yet. It seems Apple has a roadmap for mobile computing holding close to its chest. This also why MacBook Air has a full size screen and keyboard. It's supposed to be a full-feature computer while iPod touch, iPhone, and the rumored future multi-touch tablet will fill the UMPC/PMP space.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
can't believe MS beat them to it.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/I can browse on Touch downstairs, but there is a whole next level of connection that must not be too far away.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
EDGE is slow, but at least the average consumer can afford it. High-speed internet in a consumer oriented device will surely yield a high price tag and few buyers.

iTunes via Wi-Fi sure is nice though, when it's accessible.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/ edge > wimax). I'd really rather not have a monthly cost associated with my ipod.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Don't jump to conclusions... People just a few months ago were paying $200 more for an iPhone than we are now, and it was still selling very well. At the current price, adding 3G to the iPhone couldn't possibly add any more than $200 to the price of the phone, and the market has shown that people will pay that much for it even without 3G, so it's hard to say that 3G would be too expensive...
-Taylor]]>Jan 22nd 2008 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Keep your fingers crossed. I certainly am.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/"3G might appeal to a limited amount of consumers at its current pricing,"
There are really a few different issues here. If you are speaking about data cards for laptops, then yes I agree. However, if you are referring to a future HSDPA (assuming AT&T lock)iPhone, I would assume the monthly plan cost wouldn't be too much greater than it is now.
Edge is atrocious, especially in my area, and I will NOT pay for it. So in the meantime I have a 3G Treo and an iTouch. I welcome the day of the next iPhone model...]]>Jan 23rd 2008 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Apple, TAKE THE HINT!]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Now I can finally see that people are warming up to the idea of WiFi on a PMP. Mainly due to the precence of the Zune's latest WiFi abilities like sharing and synchronizing, and then the iPod Touch's use of WiFi to access the music store and internet on the go.

Can't wait to see more done with WiFi on PMP's. ]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
WiFi on the iPod Touch lets you send and receive email, track stocks, view maps, browse the web, etc. It's all about the differences in implementation and how it's to be used. That's what makes WiFi valuable on a portable device.

These are early times for ubiquitous wireless devices. Lots of vendors will be heading in this direction, not just Apple. They just happen to have one of the early success stories.

]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Then I should say WiFi on iPod Touch is useless too. It won't synchronize with the computer or share content with friends.

But I really don't consider both useless. I still prefer browsing on a computer with all my add-ons, and full site rendition on my screen. And buying music on the go isn't that much of a biggie to most people. I could see these as firmware updates to all Zunes.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
The Zune, though it has wireless, comes nowhere near that. No browser, no maps, no email... ]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/it doesnt have wireless sync, but it should.
this is the only thing that the ipod doesnt have have. it is far from useless. when apps are released with the SDK, the possibilities are endless on what can be done with the ipod's wifi]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
I'm well aware of the iPod Touch's WiFi ability.

But I'm also aware that you can't connect to the internet from just 'anywhere', I've heard several issues of how it's rather slow, how you still can't browse everything like on a desktop computer, among other things.

It's a great step ahead though.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
I hope you didn't think I was being critical of you, because I wasn't. I was just trying to contrast the different approaches to wireless connectivity taken by Microsoft and Apple, and the relative value each provides. Your post inspired the comments, but they weren't directed only at you. It's possible that not everyone is as familiar with the capabilities of the iPod Touch as you and I are.

I'm on record here at Engadget as not being a fan of Microsoft. I still like to think I'm fair to them when I write about my experiences with their products. Given critical mass I think there could be some real value in the Zune approach, even with the DRM restrictions. But the Apple approach provides value regardless of how many units they sell.

As I said, it's early days yet. I expect lots of vendors to compete successfully in this space, not just Apple.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
No, I'm not being upset or mad over such a silly thing like that. Your comment was ok. I'm not trying to be pro anything. I'm saying that both companies have made head-way into putting WiFi on their PMP's, and pretty soon other companies might follow through. Which is great for the consumer.

I'm just putting out that I think that Microsoft putting WiFi into their PMP, seems to be the start of the WiFi revolution in PMP's. Like Apple sets a good standard in their products, Microsoft took the cake on this one.

I appreciate what both companies have to offer. I'm just saying to look at it both ways. To some, Zune's WiFi may be useless, but to some it's not. I probably wouldn't use WiFi on either player much, but it's there. ]]>Jan 22nd 2008 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
I actually don't remember the last time I checked my email on my PC, I just use my iPod.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Are you saying that big file transfers through wireless, like the MPA does, are useless or something!?]]>Jan 23rd 2008 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
I'm not stuck with the iPhone's EDGE network, or no MMS or A2DP etc.; using AT&T Tilt with 3G.

And I'm not using WM6 PIE browser either; using my iPod Touch for browsing by connecting to my Tilt's 3G network through WMWifiRouter.

Yeah it's two devices, but I don't have to compromise either. :-)]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
Unless of course Apple is planning on opening it's portable platform...

Wouldn't it be awesome to have a program that allows you to access your home computer by wifi to take advantage of it's resources and basically use the 'iPod' as a wireless monitor/speaker/mouse/keyboard. But maybe that would be just too good of an idea, I guess modifing an OS to fit on the small screen and stuff would be just too much trouble compared to cramming more power in the iPod. ]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/]]>Jan 22nd 2008 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/Jan 22nd 2008 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
1) You have a monthly service that gives you access to the complete library of downloadable songs, an all-you-can-eat like Zune or Napster or whoever else is doing it these days
2) You have a real 3g solution - EvDO RevA or HSDPA
3) You can browse the songs on your device - OR in the massive collection your service provides
4) You can stream from the service, play off the local device, or (if your home connection supports it) stream off a home computer, or listen to internet radio.
5) One reasonable, monthly fee for wireless access AND all-I-can-eat-downloads. Let me store files on my local device so I can play them back without connection.

Advantage?
The hard drive can finally be relatively small without compromising functionality (8-16gb?), I actually get my music when / where I want it (no matter who it comes from), and the record companies can dole out royalties based on a portion of my monthly fee vs. individual songs. If your song is one of only 10 I paid for that month, I paid 1/10th my monthly fee for it. If it's one of 10,000 then I obviously didn't care much about it, and thus you shouldn't be paid much.

Don't expect this from Apple though. Their business model relies on iTunes as a revenue stream (and user lock-in). No, I'd expect this from Microsoft, Napster, Amazon (KindleMP3), or Google. Look for the wireless partner to probably be Sprint, as they have the unused bandwidth, wide network roll-out, and are DESPERATE for business.
]]>Jan 22nd 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
anyways, the only problem with that is that the 'bandwidth problem' that the wireless companies with 3g (or even wimax if they really wanted money), would 'face' would create a real problem.
imagine the person who streams every day, and how much bandwidth they use, compared to the person who checks their email on the device

i foresee problems such as tiered buying, similar to the road runner crap that's trying to be pulled.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-says-wifi-equipped-ipods-are-the-wave-of-the-future-may/
but honestly, sprint may be desperate, but most companies these days enjoy sucking the life out of consumers if anyone hasn't noticed :(]]>Jan 22nd 2008 8:58PM