http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Maybe in the HT realm, with physical or downloadable media (I still feel this is a pipe dream many year away from becoming a reality and viable solution).]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/The human eye can see, theoretically, 576 megapixels. So, yeah we can tell the difference. You just have to look.]]>Feb 9th 2008 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Theoretically you can tell the difference.]]>Feb 12th 2008 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 10th 2008 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Actually anyone that claims Ghz and RAM are more than enough will always be proven wrong, it's just a matter of time. And usually only if someone who is quoted as saying it remains relevant until they are proven wrong.

We're definitely going to see larger displays, higher resolutions, it's the steady march of technological improvement.

When can I get a 4K or 8K tv?]]>Feb 8th 2008 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
I love reading old Wired articles. They remind me of all those 50's magazines that claim that we would have flying cars in the year 1980, but with a faux hip style. Nerds trying to be hip, the most pathetic kind of posur there is. Also, it's almost always someone who's an expert in some field completely talking out of their you-know-what about another field that they have little experience with.]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
He was completely wrong about practically every point about digital TV, however. Yes, there is now VOD via FTTH and cable, but the digital standard we went with is ATSC. Higher resolution was emphasized over additional content (see just how many TV stations in your area even broadcast fairly basic programming guide information - go ahead, I'll wait...) Higher resolution is a tremendous improvement on any screen 30" or more - something inconceivable in '93 since at that time bigger TVs were typically grainy, pixelated, and VERY heavy. In all, he hit pretty close to the money on all of his tangential tidbits and was WAY off on his main point :)]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Man that was a hard decision. :(]]>Feb 8th 2008 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
I hope by "throw out" you meant recycled them or donated them to some place, yes?]]>Feb 8th 2008 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
obviously HDTV has been a big deal but hes saying that digital services will change TV more
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On hindsight this was clearly a mistake, and he clearly predicted its demise and why it would fail to converge with the nascent digital programming.

You teenybopper with your blogs and facebooks are so ignorant these days. :D

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If Engadget actually read the article, then it wouldn't have been put out of context.

"Nintendo, Sega, Apple, and IBM - not your run-of-the-mill TV makers - will present us with a burst of multimedia products in the home very soon."

He nailed 2 out of 4, about 10 years too early. Instead it should read "Nintendo, Sony, Apple, and Microsoft"...think "Wii, PS3, Apple TV, and XBox 360". It is the content that has changed the rate of adoption for the new HDTV's. ]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Show off.]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Actually he was even correct about IBM (look at the chip in 3 of the 4 that you mention)

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Even the idiots who miss the point are still wrong - HDTV is a joke. The only reason it has any momentum is the fact that standard broadcast is going away in a year. Nielson had HDTV penetration at 13.7% last October, I doubt it is over 20% now. I bought a hi-def television to play video games, not watch network crap.

At 52" I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, but damn do my DVDs look great upscaled. I ignore the more expensive hi-def downloads, and I have no intention of buying any hi-def movies until they're the same price as DVD.

I guess you could say it's the size of the LCD that makes me feel like I'm finally living in the future, not the pixel density. And neither attribute really has anything to do with television.]]>Feb 8th 2008 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
nobody buy the XO. this guy is obviously an idiot]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
what would you have said?

I would have told them "I'm going outside to play, thanks."]]>Feb 8th 2008 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Sure, the HD broadcasts and movies look more vibrant and the field of vision is larger (does make a difference in sports broadcasts), but does it really matter?

And if it does matter, is it really worth the added costs of HDTVs (larger ones are QUITE a bit more expensive than SD models) and HD movies (blu-ray and HD-DVD disks are almost twice as expensive as DVDs)?

I'd have to say no, not really. I do enjoy my HDTV, but I could easily live without it.

The whole thing is just more consumerism and marketing. All that's really happening is that some fat cats in Japan get their pockets lined up with even more money.

Maybe that's where Negroponte is coming from. He's not a marketer, after all. It's just meaningless fluff when you really think about it.]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 9th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
To me, the alternative channels are cookie cutter, how does that grab you?]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
it's like comparing pixels of a jpg to the information on 35mm film.]]>Feb 8th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/I can quantitatively show you that even a marginal 720p signal will trump even a very good analog NTSC signal.

Oh - and comparing a 35mm shot taken with a consumer camera to a high quality JPG taken with a consumer grade camera, the JPEG retains more information. Comparing an SLR image to a DSLR image becomes more shady, and the difference largely depends on which the photographer is more experienced with. A DSLR is certainly capable of capturing more information more accurately.

Now, if you want to talk about AUDIO, yes - an analog signal can easily trump a digital output. Audiophiles typically agree that high quality phonographs produce a much more pure sound than even the best high def audio formats. The same isn't true for video - videophiles all use digital, as near as I can tell.

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i guess we're debating over which is better.

And no, a DSLR does not retain more information than 35mm. Film has infinite granularity, a DSLR is limited by the amount of the data the CMOS can handle.]]>Feb 8th 2008 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Didn't think so.]]>Feb 8th 2008 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/Feb 8th 2008 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/nick-neg-flashback-why-hdtv-will-never-catch-on/
Maybe not in America, but just come to the border and you'll see what I'm talking about....

Stores around the place are not helping at all, they advertise digital CRT TVs as "the future", "latest technology at affordable prices here"

I ranked him high for pointing that out... And if it wasn't for me, my aunt would have bought one of those digital CRT TVs.....]]>Feb 8th 2008 8:36PM