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Hmm, must not be quite so dead, yet.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
A few nails already in there, but it won't stop more nails from going in. After all, it's too much fun watching Toshiba formulate their weak response.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Owning a PS3 and an A30 and now an equal amount of movies on both formats (18 on each), I have to say that I think this is about it for HD DVD. Like I said before, I think it's too bad that the cheaper, complete format won out over the more expensive, incomplete format, but kudos to Sony for finally getting a format right by buying up studio support. Toshiba could have handled this so much better, like by putting the player in the 360. I want a sub-$200 2.0 standalone player to replace my PS3 to watch Blu-rays on. When can I get one of those? Until that time, I'll be watching them on Sony's little trojan horse that (most likely) won them the war.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Every engadget blog entry has one dumb ass that either says FIRST or "Nail in the Coffin"....... POP]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/XD]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
"Like I said before, I think it's too bad that the cheaper, complete format won out over the more expensive, incomplete format.."

Why is that too bad? Cheaper and more complete sounds like a good thing to me...]]>Feb 12th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
i was sort of cheered on HD DVD for a while too...]]>Feb 12th 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 13th 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Exactly. Stop with all these press releases, the HD DVD Group. It's making a fool of yourself.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
By manufacturing Blu-Ray players, of course!]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
haha, or it depends on how you word it:
"Fight to the end? or cut and run?"
sounds very different than:
"Keep kicking and screaming? or bow out gracefully?"]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Might not be a bad strategy, even if it does tick off the people that go into a store and buy without knowledge.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
If you were a Democrat, what format would you support?
And if you were a Republican, what format would it be?
And if you were an independent or a Green-party minority, what would you choose?

Blu-ray? HD-DVD? Or that other third format (VMD) mentioned in Engadget?]]>Feb 12th 2008 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/is gone. Downloads are the way to go. Apple TV, Netflix, all starting
to offer downloadable service.

Your 400 dollar blu-ray players are just as dead as the 150 dollar
HD-DVD players.

Don't deny it!]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/HD-DVD players."

True story friend, true story... It doesnt matter which side of the war youre on... BOTH sides are screwed... HD because we may not have anything left to get, Blu cuz their overpriced players wont be "compatible" by Xmas...

Kudos for you!]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Unfortunately streaming over 25GB of content over the internet won't happen any time soon. Not until telecom companies start upgrading their infrastructure, which looks unlikely at the moment.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
No matter how you slice it, it's just a matter of time before digital downloads are the norm.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
I think you'll find that most people could care less about the quality vs the convenience of a download (look at mp3, for example - if people cared THAT much about quality, mp3 would have never taken off).

Sure, there's a few people out there that will repurchase all of their film catalog in Blu-Ray or HD-DVD or whatever physical format promises 1000 more pixels of awesome, but not that many.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
As to those going on that downloads will never replace HD because you can't stream that fast. No I can't stream that fast but I can sure as hell download the whole file and then watch it. What's the difference between downloading a complete HD movie in say WMV and buying/renting the disc? Still quicker and more convinient to download it.]]>Feb 12th 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years...]]>Feb 12th 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
HD downloads ARE the future, its just not coming as soon as you think. Think about what it requires to do.

1. An HTPC
2. Uber fast internet connection
3. the infrastructure to support said service
4. A whole new round of studio and provider disputes


I don't see mainstream HD downloading in the near future.]]>Feb 12th 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
People are buying HD NOT because they suddenly want HD (although some do. I did for my 360) but because they are being forced to buy a new TV due to the analogue signal turned off so rather than just buy a TV with built in digital receiver they buy a HD one so they are ready for the next step since some stations are already broadcasting it. That and the fact HD tv's and equipment outnumbers non-HD equipment in most shops now.]]>Feb 12th 2008 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Internet connections are getting faster and better all the time, Verizon is rolling out FiOS and AT&T has Uverse.
Lets not forget Pay per view and VOD.
I think you're seriously delusional if you believe Blu Ray will take over DVD anytime soon. First off price comes before quality. HDTV's didn't sell when they first came out, they're now only selling because their prices are pretty low. DVD's still will have the market for many years, even though Blu ray is the undeniable winner. Also don't forget that the economy will decide who can buy what. The economy is getting worse all the time, so who can afford paying for Blu?]]>Feb 12th 2008 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/
Have you actually watched a movie with uncompressed audio with a good 7.1 system? I guess you're just content with "youtube video quality", or just happy with watching videos on your phone or portable media player.

The physical media isn't dead yet. Just when you think that 50GB is good enough, someone will come up with an even higher definition, multiple-screen support for surround video, etc, then 50GB may not be good enough but maybe 150 GB. Try downloading that. Try archiving that.

Oh wait. You just wanted to watch that video on your phone, and think that the physical media is dead.]]>Feb 12th 2008 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/12/hd-dvd-camp-issues-sad-little-response-to-netflix-best-buy-snub/Feb 12th 2008 11:05AM