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David]]>Feb 14th 2008 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
Cool, in that case why wasn't the red N95 called the N96? It's got just about as many changes from the black N95 as this "new" one. It seems like Nokia is pumping out more phones a month than Steven Segal movies. They need to start taking their time developing phones instead of coming up with "high end", cheap quality, bug ridden devices every 3 months.]]>Feb 14th 2008 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
If you understand English you may notice that it's very hard if not impossible to be able to judge the feel and materials of the phone by pictures alone. ]]>Feb 14th 2008 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/[MiniMe] You were rude because you told people to get real, like we're all fantasizing. Moreover you generalize things in an sarcastic and un-argumented manner. Just to confirm that you were rude, read for yourself your own statement below:

Let me know when you have moved out of your grandma's basement.

".. [I] assumed that since it looks like the N81 it must be built like the N81".
According to your logic I can conclude that "all the things in the world are the same, but have differences".

Again, English>You. Show me where I said this: "all the things in the world are the same, but have differences". However, if 2 phones made by the same manufacturer, look the same, run the same software, guess what...you can safely conclude that they are largely the same.
Show me where did I say that you said this "all the things..". They look the same? You were able to distinguish this from a couple of pictures only? You're good.. We can "safely" conclude? Why safely? because you said so??

"I have a Nokia E61i which has body parts made of aluminium. So not "ALL" their phones are made of plastic. Similarly, their "usual plastic" is not cheap."

Next time we are talking about N series devices please restrict your comments to these devices. I have an 8800 which is also not made of plastic. Their usual plastic is cheap as long as it creaks and the paint comes off from normal use (N95-8GB, N95, N81 etc). Also, I would like to know how many of these phones you actually own because obviously you know NOTHING about them and how well they are built.
You made a general statement about the Nokia phones. Quote: "the usual cheap plastic all their other phones are made of." Please note your own words: "all their other phones" not "all their other N-series phones". You "obviously" know all the phones I have.. Wow..

Facts:

N95-1: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Paint comes off after 3 months of regular use. Light leaks out of the device like it was meant to be a flashlight.

N95-2: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Paint comes off after 2 months of regular use.

N81: cheap plastic, crappy slider, easily scratched, paint comes off.

N80: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Every part that could be loose is loose.
Just how did you exactly determine which part could be loose before it became loose?

That was my last comment. My time is valuable.]]>Feb 14th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/".. [I] assumed that since it looks like the N81 it must be built like the N81".
According to your logic I can conclude that "all the things in the world are the same, but have differences".

"Or hold on, maybe they went with the high quality materials instead of the usual cheap plastic all their other phones are made of."
I have a Nokia E61i which has body parts made of aluminium. So not "ALL" their phones are made of plastic. Similarly, their "usual plastic" is not cheap.

"Get real"
Get lost.]]>Feb 14th 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
Let me know when you have moved out of your grandma's basement.

".. [I] assumed that since it looks like the N81 it must be built like the N81".
According to your logic I can conclude that "all the things in the world are the same, but have differences".

Again, English>You. Show me where I said this: "all the things in the world are the same, but have differences". However, if 2 phones made by the same manufacturer, look the same, run the same software, guess what...you can safely conclude that they are largely the same.


"I have a Nokia E61i which has body parts made of aluminium. So not "ALL" their phones are made of plastic. Similarly, their "usual plastic" is not cheap."

Next time we are talking about N series devices please restrict your comments to these devices. I have an 8800 which is also not made of plastic. Their usual plastic is cheap as long as it creaks and the paint comes off from normal use (N95-8GB, N95, N81 etc). Also, I would like to know how many of these phones you actually own because obviously you know NOTHING about them and how well they are built.

Facts:

N95-1: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Paint comes off after 3 months of regular use. Light leaks out of the device like it was meant to be a flashlight.

N95-2: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Paint comes off after 2 months of regular use.

N81: cheap plastic, crappy slider, easily scratched, paint comes off.

N80: requires tape on the back of the sliding part so it doesn't wobble. Every part that could be loose is loose.
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1 - Slightly thinner (though longer)
2 - updated asthetics

Question: What happens in mass memory? - do you have 2 new drives - one for the 16gb on-board & another for the micro?]]>Feb 14th 2008 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
I would hope that the 16GB is phone memory, card memory is whatever you insert.]]>Feb 14th 2008 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
Technically there could be 3 drives present when you go in in PC mode:

Phone
Internal memory
Micro SD

I'm not a fan of partitions so I don't think I'll care for that too much.]]>Feb 14th 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
Secondly, Nokia holds just over 40% of WORLD mobile phone market. It is probably more then the next three competitors have combined. I think this is because they sell cheap plastic phones nobody every buys, or rebuys???. If Nokia dropped the US mobile market entirely(so people like you in US could be happy with an Iphone,RAZRs, Chocolates etc)they would still DOMINATE in marketshare. ]]>Feb 14th 2008 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
I live the N95 and the N96 looks just as impressive, but can Nokia please make these phones with a qwerty keypad....even a Pearl-esque keypad would be fine.]]>Feb 14th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 14th 2008 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
All NSeries phone has 3.5mm port since the launch of the N95. Yes, those four phones all have 3.5mm ports. The only phone with Xenon flash is the N82. The N95-3 is not the best, by far.

It's either the N96 without Xenon flash but 16GB+MicroSD (=FRIGGING NICE) and DVB-H OR the N82 with Xenon-flash. The N82 is really well-built. Don't know about N96. The N95 has bad build quality. The N78 is just... seriously lacking Xenon-flash, which it should have as a succeeder to the N73.]]>Feb 16th 2008 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/
Since then, I've had many, many phones and for the past 7 or 8 years they have all been Nokia. Apart from anything else I do a lot of text, and having gotten used to the T9 I have never been comfortable with Moto, or Sony even after a few days of perseverance. Most of my phones have been models somewhere in the middle - not the cheapest, but nothing extravagant. I still have a 7110, 7250, 6230i and a few others kicking around, for instance.

The N95 was my first visit to the bleeding edge, I bought an N95-1 not long after they came out.

I mention all this, to point out that I feel eminently qualified to make the following observation:

The N95 is truly, aesthetically the worst phone I have owned. Ever. In terms of functionality, I couldn't live without it - I use it to the full - email, web, voip over SIP, IM client, GPS, etc etc. I've filled it up with music. BUT. For the love of God. The build quality??!!!

I have to agree with some other posters. My battery cover failed after 2 months. It's now held in place with a strip of sellotape. The paint job is exceedingly tatty. And yes the top slider bleeds light. It looks like it's been to a war zone and back. Obviously I'm "careless" with the way I handle it - but then, how come my other Nokia phones still look like new? Bar a few scratches and dings even my *oldest* phone looks newer than my N95 - and most of the time they live in the same pocket (I always carry two - one for work one private number).

Don't even get me started on the battery. They must have spent all of 5 minutes redesigning the camera and battery housing to accommodate the 1.2Ah battery in the newer models. WHY didn't they think of this from the start, knowing how hungry the N95 was?!

Sorry for the lengthy post, I do so in the hopes that it will either encourage Nokia to have a re-think or encourage people hesitant to make the leap to an expensive phone, to continue to be hesitant.

I, for one, will be waiting three or four months after the N96 comes out before I even *think* about buying one. Let some other sucker take the fall, and find out whether the bloody thing looks like a cheap knock-off after 3 months. Fool me once, shame on you...]]>Feb 15th 2008 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/14/hands-on-with-nokias-high-rolling-n96/Feb 21st 2008 2:32AM