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"All your HD DVD are belong to us"
-Love, Blu-ray.]]>Feb 16th 2008 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/:)]]>Feb 16th 2008 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
#1 Sony backed format
#2 Blu Ray would cost more to poduce and be more expensive
#3 HDDVD on Xbox 360 would be a huge success
etc,

What's funny is, Blu Ray 50 GB disks cost 47 cents to make while HDDVD's cost more than 60 cents for both the 15GB and the 30GB.


This format war was OVER when I heard 2 things:

#1 Blu Ray's capacity is potentialy higher than HDDVD's would ever be

#2 Playstation 3 had a BD player built in and Xbox 360 had no HDDVD player built in.


Microsoft could have given HDDVD a fighting chance if they'd put it in the ELITE 360 and the revised PREMIUM 360.

Maybe if MS had done that, Blu Ray wouldn't hold over 85% of the market share.]]>Feb 16th 2008 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Just like Rockefeller oil.]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Not nessie-celery. Now there is a clear winner the market will grow (think of the fence-sitters for a start) and probably many more discs will be sold [Blu-ray is actually in a stronger sales position now than DVD was at the same point in its life]. That will almost certainly bring efficiencies and price cuts.]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
"In your face, suckers!!!!11!!111"

Ah. I've wanted to to do that a long time. :)

(I smell some "Vote comment down" in the air. Alright, HD-DVD-backers, have your last revenge.)]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
There is not just 1 company making bluray, there are many. They'll fight among each other, and competition will still exist. Driving prices down to current DVD levels =\.]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Oh how wrong you are. There will be many manufacturers producing Blu-Ray devices and they'll be competing with each other. Prices will drop just like any other consumer electronic device. Your comment is only slightly plausable if Sony were the only manufacturer.]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
At the moment around 15 manufacturers make HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players. Once Blu-ray is officially the only one left other manufacturers will produce them, and within 12 months cheaper brands, the Bush's, the Alba's and later the no-named brands. This will push prices down.

When the only players around are from Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Hitachi, and especially Pioneer, prices will always be higher. Plus manufacturers are trying to limit losses because they are not confident, I know many players sell at a loss, but if they were confident that the format would win they would sell at even more of a loss until manufacturing rates meant they could sell cheap and at a profit. Prices could never go up once they go down, which they have lately.

If you sell your first 100,000 units at a loss of $200, but this means that your next million can be sold at a pofit of $20, you would be willing to take the loss.]]>Feb 16th 2008 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/

and now computers will come with blu-ray readers and writers soon to follow :D i hope they wont phase out the CDs because every1 just loves them. well, they could eventually, if blank DVD prices become as cheap as a blank CD.

To me the CD's size is quite a usable size that you can burn something without worrying that the rest of the space is wasted or there isnt enough... :)]]>Feb 16th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Blu Ray's capacity is potentialy higher than HDDVD's would ever be"

Exactly. It's all about capacity, people. Capacity, capacity, capacity.]]>Feb 16th 2008 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
[Haha, it was just asking to be said]]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
And HD-DVD didn't have AACS? ]]>Feb 16th 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Comparing AACS to BD+ is like comparing a Pleo to the T-1000...]]>Feb 17th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 17th 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
While some people are willing to bend over with no vaseline when it comes to the things we buy, it's not that easy for others to just "live with it". ]]>Feb 17th 2008 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
A player and 12 movies for $59 - I'm in.]]>Feb 16th 2008 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/

oh and

yay blu ray!]]>Feb 16th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Not in Australia at least.

Though ADSL2+ is available at some exchanges, cable isn't widely available (Pay TV usually goes via satellite). Most people hang around 512kbps, at a cost of $40 AUD a month.

Downloading a 1080p movie at that rate...
About 13GB.
that's 109 051 904 kilobits.
at 512kbps (not KB/s) that's 212 992 seconds = 59.1644444 hours

60 hours at the fastest possible speed. The cap.

Not gonna happen.]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
And yes it will get all the latest profiles through firmware updates.]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
If Sony unlocks the RSX to OtherOS, I may just break down, head out and get one though... the CBE is a very interesting processor, imo.]]>Feb 16th 2008 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
COULD THIS BE THE FINAL NAIL IN HD-DVD's COFFIN????


]]>Feb 16th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
I also believe Dennis Kunicich may just win the '08 presidential election and Amelia Earhart will be landing anytime now.]]>Feb 16th 2008 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
I hear they found Jimmy Hoffa as well.]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
Is that your way of saying "C-C-C-Combobreaker!!!?"]]>Feb 16th 2008 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/You can use your Harmony remote with your PS3! For $19.99 you can get the Nyko Blu-Wave (http://www.nyko.com/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?i=113). I have one and it works flawlessly with my Harmony remote.]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/I forgot to mention that Logitech has all the commands for the Nyko Blu-Wave, so you just need to attach the USB IR receiver to one of the PS3 USB ports, and then program your Harmony remote with the Nyko commands.]]>Feb 16th 2008 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/Feb 16th 2008 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/
You might find yourself tweaking the Harmony commands to get them where you like them, but it's not that difficult.

The only caveat: You cannot control power settings with an IR remote on the PS3. There are some hacks out there that allow for attaching a pad to the power button or hacking the Sony Bluetooth remote, but those are a bit less elegant that the USB dongle.

Plus, if you set up your PS3 for Folding@Home then you won't want to turn it off (just keep in mind that the PS3 is running all the time at that point).]]>Feb 16th 2008 1:49PM