http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/ Engadget Comments for HP rumored to be prepping UMPC "lifestyle accessory" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
I love things that say things like "professionals as well as youths". What that generally means to me is: "We don't know what this thing is."]]>Feb 18th 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
A handphone is the modernized counterpart to Maxwell Smart's shoe phone.]]>Feb 18th 2008 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Wifi internet, Phone (GSM, GPRS or 3G), GPS navigation functionality
not too small to operate, not too bulky to fit pocket]]>Mar 5th 2008 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/If it's x86, runs linux natively (they can have a windows version, but HP has to have a supported native linux on it, that takes advantage of all of the hardware), has bluetooth FTP, and more than a total of 16GB of internal storage, then I'll definitely consider it.

If it also has options for an SSD, WWAN (again, usable/supported with linux), and bluetooth DUN or ability to act as a wifi access point (for my PDA)... then I don't see how I could pass it up.
]]>Feb 18th 2008 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Oh, and at a price point that's comparable to the Eee, or cheaper.]]>Feb 18th 2008 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
My basic requirements aren't a big stretch at all. There are other linux UMPCs out there (esp. the one they name in the article). Bluetooth FTP is no big deal. 16GB of internal storage is no big deal. X86 means some design trade-offs, but it's not unreasonable.

On the other side, only the "linux supported WWAN" is the stretch. And, even then, it's not a huge stretch.

The only HUGE stretch here is: linux from HP.
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Now what if they used Nokia's platform? It's linux & could do all the things you mention. Again, I believe it would be a stretch- though you could always replace the OS if it is x86 based.]]>Feb 18th 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
b) Nokia's Linux (maemo) isn't x86 based

c) Nokia's Linux isn't 100% open, so it'd take some individual work to make it port over. Rather than have basic functionality rest on individuals, which also then means that you can't count on the hardware being 100% supported, I'd rather have the hardware vendor actively support it. Thus the reason for that being in my basic requirements.

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Depending upon the bluetooth capabilities, they've pretty much given me what I asked for. Express Card slot for the WWAN, SSD storage, choice between Linux and Vista.

Ready to eat crow when the rest of the list comes in? :-)
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I know, messed up eh?

But like OpenOffice works (and now I use it in XP)
And Firefox works good (I use that in XP too)
And Ubuntu works ace and boots faster (I don't really use XP much any more)

Basically, Kendall, what I'm saying is don't be afraid. Linux is the way forward. Try a live CD. Don't install nothing, just try it.

And I don't want to start a Linux vs XP flamer section, I just want to say in the UMPC market, Linux is ok because all you really want is to use office and browse the web which free software is ace for... in fact its what I use in XP.]]>Feb 19th 2008 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
How can linux be a "knockoff"? It surely isn't a knockoff of windows XP.

I'm assuming you are referring to stores like circuit city, best buy, and walmart. And we all know they sell the cutting edge of systems and operating systems. It's not found in stores #1 because it is free and open source, and #2 because most tech illiterate people are only (somewhat) knowledgeable of windows. The only reason for that is sheer momentum and the monopolistic forces of Microsoft. People who find Linux hard to setup/install and use day to day, have to remember the reason for that is because big companies haven't been supporting the platform for consumers. So there are problems with hardware compatibility because Windows has such a large market share in the consumer market that many hardware vendors don't build drivers for their consumer level hardware. Consumer software in the past had the same problem, with versions only available for Windows or Mac OSX. The problem in application software is slowly starting to vanish, but the hardware driver problem still remains.

Had Linux always maintained a significant share of laymen users, many more companies would be supporting Linux with their hardware and software.
In fact, in the professional workstation and server market, they do just that as Linux and BSD tend to dominate. Professional versions of windows are also used in corporate IT Infrastructure, but Linux and Unix dominate in professional creative content development, media production, high performance computing/supercomputing, Scientific Research/Biotech, Computational Sciences, University systems, etc.

What I'm really trying to say is STFU about shitty Windows somehow being superior than everything else. As with this UMPC you are talking about and the market at large, if operating systems actually competed ON MERIT, Microsoft's consumer division would be much smaller that it is today..]]>Feb 19th 2008 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
Anyway, here it is

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2008/02/16/hp-umpc-coming-this-spring-/]]>Feb 18th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
BTW, handphone is a slang used in Singapore for mobile phone, a bit like how Americans use the term cell phone. I know, cell phone makes a lot more sense than handphone... but hey, it's English, it's funny that way]]>Feb 18th 2008 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/Feb 18th 2008 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/18/hp-rumored-to-be-prepping-umpc-lifestyle-accessory/
Sammy Winter-maybe you should read what you said genius. "Had Linux always maintained a significant share of laymen users, many more companies would be supporting Linux with their hardware and software." Read again.

Thats right dumbass. Linux does not share the significant share of laymen users. Which means a lot more software is made for Windows today. Do you get it now dummy. You want Linux to be the king but it just sits on the sides and grabs its junk whining about driver issues and how know one likes to watch. Stupid really. Pointless yeah.

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and linux isnt a big corporate machine. it sucks that it cant be appreciated appropriately.

so windows is worth more than an open source free progr....wait a sec...its worth more than somethign free? WOW!

and it sucks that.... well nevermind, you cant tell someone close minded that they are.

take some fuckin college courses and get your head out of your ass.]]>Mar 28th 2008 7:30PM