http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/ Engadget Comments for Palm tries to make a right with two wrongs http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/i really didn't know what to say]]>Feb 21st 2008 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 26th 2008 6:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
Most of your products need to be in the $49.99 and below range to make more sales.
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Faslane]]>Feb 21st 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/]]>Feb 21st 2008 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
Seriously, you should carry your cell phone on you. You never know what's gonna happen and you might need help/]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
I agree. I ended up buying an iPod touch because I don't want to be at the mercy of AT&T as far as when I can use my PDA/iPod. You can of course unlock them, but that requires you to often void the warranty, risk update problems, bricking, and in some cases modding hardware. This is especially true of the iphone.

I also agree that stand alone PDAs are better (or at least they were.) Not only are PDAs not tied to a network they often are a lot more powerful and less locked down. Many of Verison's phones can't even use their bluetooth for file transfer. I have a Tapwave Zodiac which was made in 2003 and palmed powered. Even today it's a sweet device despite it's lack of success. If I didn't buy a Touch I'd still probably use it as a PDA, gaming machine, and mp3 player.

Tapwave Zodiac
200mhz ARM
32 or 128mb onboard
2 SD Slots (1 SDIO)
480x320x16 screen
8mb ATi (4500?) mobility
Bluetooth
Analog stick and game layout
PalmOS 5]]>Feb 21st 2008 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
and before you people go, well not everyone wants a cellphones on/for their pda. they have wifi sdio cards that make pda's wifi enabled im pretty sure if they wanted too they would bring the same "optional" tech to pda's
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This whole thing was, like the first commentor said, was meant for one to be given away to a spouse or someone else.

two wrongs with one right? you really have to say something negative dont you?

from the latest sales reports, Palm still sells the most handhelds, more than any other company out there including your beloved apple.

Smartphones are not for everyone. Some people prefer handhelds, and Palm is still the foremost handheld making company out there.]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
I'm still using my TX, but I doubt that I will be at the end of the year.]]>Feb 21st 2008 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
I can only assume it's Engadget's usual tedious bias.]]>Feb 22nd 2008 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
why did it fail? a crappy web browser with no flash pluggin. relatively slow / drop frequent wi-fi. if you didn't use outlook or palm desktop, forget about synching anything else. ..... developers pretty much left palm high and dry. a real shame.

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Furthermore, I wouldn't say developers have left Palm. It has more software than Windows Mobile, still.]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
In case you've never heard of Netfront, it's the browser on the PSP, Sony Mylo, and several Sony Ericsson phones.]]>Feb 22nd 2008 1:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
A nice uninformed comment.]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
I could have made this "same" run on sentence go a lot longer.

Making it color capable and adjusting to a higher resolution are not MAJOR revisions.

They better not be basing the new o/s around basic Palm O/S principles ... making anything short of a iPhone or Nokia n810 experience will sink the Palm name the rest of the way.

Palm's failure in the last 3 years is a result of them not willing to innovate. The o/s is past the point where developers can develop for it because it can't support today's standards in handheld devices.

I have dealt with Palm and it's products for years so i am very well informed. I'm not sitting here PalmBashing ... i have great respect for them.

We are very close to having full o/s's running on handheld devices.

If Palm launches their "new" o/s and it's just a Garnet like GUI running on a linux base they will fail. If it has more of a linux desktop feel they have a chance.

Their capitol infusion is just keeping them going so they can innovate. I hope they do but they've made it unclear what their new o/s is really going to be.

If their new device is just their obsolete Treo design with a new o/s on it's tiny little screen it will fail.

The competition now sets the bar as Palm did 4 years ago. If Apple releases a bigger pda/umpc-like device it may be over no matter what Palm does.]]>Feb 22nd 2008 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/


1. Foleo dropped
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/04/palm-kills-the-foleo-dead/


2. Palm shops closed
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/26/palm-to-close-all-retail-locations-but-one-for-real/


3. 2 x 1
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/

4. ???]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
5. Palm OS Nova

6. Foleo II]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
if not: may the gadget gods hear you]]>Feb 21st 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 22nd 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/1) first of i had a zire 21 good device but battery died within 3 weeks after i got it, it had no removable battery so device was finished
2) i also had a
tungsten e2 from 2005, similar to the TX from 2005, very good device until the battery died half a year after i got it, it had no removable battery so device was finished, unless you use it via a plug socket only
3) and my final palm was the z22 in late 2005, which crashed when i played a 3d game on it, it had no reset or removable battery so device was finished 2 hours after i got it, the z22 was the worst pda or gadget i ever had, useless at everything the screen was a dissater 3ins 160x160 pixel, device only lasted 2hrs rubbish , i later returned it for a hp ipaq which was the best thing i ever did, no battery problems even to 2years 3 months after i got it
my ipaq still does 12 hours video, about 30hrs music, palm tungsten e2 good rubbish battery shame
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Pity then about the OS and that much of the OS, the 3rd Party products embedded in the OS, on its Install CD or its Desktop are Vista-capable. As for Mac-capability...well, have you seen their Desktop in Mac?

If Colligan has crates of these unsold in his basement, he's got no one to blame but himself. ]]>Feb 21st 2008 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/
I travel, and have both US and UK prepaid phones that suit my needs perfectly. Partly because cellphones are not allowed where I work (military facility), and partly because landlines are available everywhere else I am.

I would like a new Palm device thought (I have a 315 or 515 now) for travel. It can hold a ton of games, books, astronomy software for stargazing on the go, foreign language practice/dictionaries, contacts info (better than my ipod does), i can take notes on it fairly rapidly. the size and shape is comfortable, and by turning the backlight off most of the time i can get pretty good battery life out of it. Still, $299 is outrageous. I wouldn't pay half. And, the zire is $49 everywhere i still see it for sale.
peace.]]>Feb 21st 2008 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/Feb 21st 2008 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/palm-tries-to-make-a-right-with-two-wrongs/is there a section here where i can find which is the fastest, cheapest PDA on the market now?
or can some one enlighten me?
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