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MY SH*T !]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
You wait years for internet connected public transport, then two show up nearly together.]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/then they both blow past your stop, mouthing, "there's another one right behind me." f#$@ing muni... ]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
But I was imagining a new level of bum, one that has a job and bathes, but doesn't like to pay for wifi.]]>Feb 21st 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
I appreciate free wireless, but I'd hope that next time you instead spent your time, effort, and money making the buses not smell like piss. Oh and maybe you could stop the occasional bum fist fights over crack rocks. That would be nice too.

Sincerely,
A MUNI rider]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
i hate MUNI so much i made sure to own 2 bicycles, a car, and multiple good walking shoes. and have taxi numbers on quick dial.

what's great is that mayor gavin newsome gave the muni chief a raise to what, $350K a year? -- the city's highest paid employee as i recall.

i read some study that the average speed of a muni bus was 8mph. of course, this is exacerbated due to gridlock, lack of multi-modal xport, poor planning, poorly timed lights, "pedestrians" gansta walking/jaywalking at crosswalks at 1mph. oh well, at least my rent is slightly less than manhattan.

/rant]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
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2 - if you're at a place where there is constant bus motion (financial district) you could conceivably hop from signal to signal.

3 - forget BUS signal, they really need to put wifi in the bus shelters. with tons of people waiting 30 minutes for a 10 minute bus ride, it's clear to see where the signal will be most beneficial.]]>Feb 21st 2008 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/]]>Feb 21st 2008 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 22nd 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
I ride public transportation every day in San Francisco because I'm not going to pay $12 a day to park my car across from my office after an 8 minute drive.

Hell the whole city is 49 freaking square miles and I don't even go into 3/5s of it. I use my car for two things, groceries and Tahoe.]]>Feb 22nd 2008 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
Do you need to "download music and play games" on the bus as Newsom claims the wi-fi is for ? It is a waste of money when you consider it's necessity and the number of people capable of using it.

BTW When I lived in SF I walked and used buses too. I used my car to vist family outside of the city.]]>Feb 22nd 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
And about the touch-screen maps... does anyone remember how quickly the glass bus stations on Embarcadero got all crapped up?

I don't even touch the hand rails on a Muni bus unless I'm about to fall.]]>Feb 21st 2008 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
in any case, however your opinion differs from mine doesn't change your hypocrisy or obvious lack of knowledge on the subject. you sure are good at baiting and bashing other users here though. bash on, ole' righteous one. way to be all contrarian and stuff.]]>Feb 21st 2008 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
geek fight on a public forum! Ha!]]>Feb 22nd 2008 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/]]>Feb 21st 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
.. which ones?]]>Feb 22nd 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
Of course nobody's going to use a laptop, but for WiFi-enabled PDAs and phones, this is awesome. Might actually attract some new riders. If anything, this could make buses MORE secure, by enabling real-time video feeds to transit cops.]]>Feb 21st 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
On-board WiFi can help both, and at "less than $10,000" per unit (according to the article), it seems like a bargain. I read the article, and many of the commenters complained about the accuracy of the "nextbus" system. Combining GPS with the connectivity these buses will have, this system could be made MUCH more reliable.

And, no, you don't need cops to view every live feed, but it would be relatively easy to capture digital video, particularly if a passenger hits the "panic" button. To me, this sounds like a great idea.

I swear, you can't do anything new these days without someone complaining.]]>Feb 21st 2008 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/Feb 21st 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
From my experience of Muni, it's much better than AC Transit. Muni also gets GPS predictions of the next bus at many stops, which is really useful.]]>Feb 21st 2008 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/san-francisco-bus-getting-wifi-deathmatch-to-follow/
I was checking out other places to invest in housing, and I saw that even Reno has several bus lines that have WiFi... and one of the lines is free to ride, too. Not to mention the roads there, despite the worse weather, are so much better that you can actually use a laptop on a bus because they aren't bumpy. Ever drive I-80 from California to Nevada? Weird how once you hit the border, the ripped up, falling apart bumpy noisy freeway turns to glass smooth. And it's an INTERSTATE. Sheesh.
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