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That's pretty big for an "undeveloped" country. The alternative is already here, and has been for a long time now. Whoever still uses gas does so for political reasons only.]]>Mar 7th 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
Now, if hydrogen can be extracted from sea water cheaply, I'm in business.
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And the brainiacs in DC Tax you to hand money to subsidize ethanol; more corn goes to fuel production, and your monthly food bill for everything from tortillas to beef goes up. That is your geniuses in DC; Taxing you three ways from Sunday to hand out billions for ethanol subsidies, and when you add in the water it uses, fertilizer etc., ethanol is an epic boondoggle.

Brazil makes ethanol from sugar cane. Much higher energy yield from sugar than from the starches in corn. Ethanol is a typical boondoggle non-solution; a way for the politicos to appear to ‘do something’ while handing out BILLIONS in new corporate welfare and yet not upsetting the apple cart of the oil majors.

I’m curious, does anyone actually read books anymore, or are you all to busy watching America’s next top model idol loser?
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Now the problem is producing enough ethanol in an economical manner. Converting surplus grain is good, that potential fuel would otherwise be wasted, but growing food crops specifically to produce fuel is not efficient, there's debate whether it actually produces any net energy once you factor in petroleum based fertilizers and fuel burned by the farm equipment. The technology is good, it has uses, but expecting it to solve our energy needs is wishful thinking. It's a small piece of the puzzle.]]>Mar 7th 2008 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
Yes, ethanol is 30% less effective than gas, but it's also 40-50% cheaper and like I said it's a lot cleaner, and makes the car slightly more powerful (1 to 2 more HP).

And yes, it's extracted from sugar cane, but there are researches being done to extract it from a kind of grass that will be much more efficient from the environment point of view.

But no one is starving here because of our ethanol plants. The important thing is that we produce both gas and ethanol, and cars accept any mixture between those two, so we have a choice.

Cars would be a lot more effective though if they were made to run only on ethanol, but for economical reasons (lack of choice would make price raise) they chose to make cars compatible with gas too.]]>Mar 7th 2008 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
As others mentioned, Ethanol is a disaster for the world when made inappropriately. Washington DC is giving billions of American's tax dollars in subsidies to large agro businesses making ethanol from corn crops. This in turn has not only caused a tripling of food corn prices, but has caused more and more agriculture growers to move to corn creating shortages in other food crops. A prominent United Nations Food Aid official has called the use of corn ethanol a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY! It is causing a HUGE burden on the worlds poor and the aid organizations trying to feed them from the outlandish prices of corn caused by using it as a fuel. This is a terrible idea, and Bush and his cronies should be tried at the Hague for promoting such nonsense.

Besides the humanitarian problems, corn ethanol is just plain inefficient and expensive to produce.
The only reason Ethanol it works in Brazil is because they produce it from sugar cane, which is a much more efficient and cheaper process, and uses something that is not a basic food staple of the world.

The only way ethanol gets anywhere close to reasonable is when they are able to produce it out of agricultural waste, which will mostly be cellulose at the molecular level. There are thousands of scientists researching the use of bacterial enzymes for breaking down cellulose and producing ethanol, but there is much work to be done. In the meantime, SHAME ON ANYONE supporting the massive subsidization of corn ethanol! It's totally irresponsible and immoral. Funny how most of the supporters are conservative republican "moral majority" assholes...





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Another problem we run into is the price of energy. If we can get the price of electricity down to where it doesn't matter, then home hydrogen processing is appealing. But we have to get over our collective hatred of clean, safe, reliable nuclear energy for that to happen. I suppose once everybody's home is powered by several alternative energy sources this could be a possibility as well.]]>Mar 7th 2008 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
I can't wait to see how hydrogen powered cars compare to gasoline powered cars in the future when hydrogen is feasibly and reliably on the market. An m3 powered by hydrogen... tasty.]]>Mar 7th 2008 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Mar 7th 2008 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
I'm with you... more nuclear power plants = cheaper electricity = more advanced electric cars?]]>Mar 7th 2008 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Mar 8th 2008 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Mar 8th 2008 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Mar 7th 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Ethanol is, at best, a stop-gap fuel. Regardless of its effects on other food crops, displacement of arable land, cellulosic fermentation, relative cost vs petrol, or any other argument you can make.. at the end of the day YOU'RE STILL BURNING HYDROCARBONS. This is the very root of global warming. All Ethanol will do is switch us from a finite supply of hydrocarbons, to a renewable supply of hydrocarbons. Good for stretching the existing fuel economy out until we can find an actual replacement. Bad for continuing to add to global warming.]]>Mar 7th 2008 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/Good show.
On to wind power!!]]>Mar 7th 2008 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
That isnt entirely the whole picture. While hydrocarbons are being burned, the CO2 that is released is CO2 that was consumed by whatever plant has been fermented (which is typically a fast growth, short lived plant). No 'new' (or at least minimal) CO2 is introduced into the system.

Personally I find the whole fuel displacing food crops as the main issue with ethanol. If they can find a way to produce ethanol from agricultural waste (of which there is a LOT), I would be less wary of ethanol as a fuel.]]>Mar 8th 2008 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
Fact is, if a miracle cure to the energy crunch is found, it should be open sourced and the money made off the delivery and distribution system. Basic problem not addressed -too many people. Would make much more sense to be managed by robot overlords...

my $0.02]]>Mar 10th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/
These guys are saying they can boost that to 85%.

Let an indepenent lab verify their claims, then I'll believe them.]]>Mar 8th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/07/quantumsphere-speaks-of-homemade-hydrogen/I am all for Hydrogen based energy. We also need to dump a ton of money into sustainable nuclear fusion, no more fission reactors.
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http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/7/4/climatechange_gerry_wolff.pdf

http://www.nanovalley.us/news/57.html

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Anyhow thanks for the post

http://water-for-gas-reviews.com/
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