http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/ Engadget Comments for Ireland and Austria get iPhones, and the shaft http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
In the UK o2 has it's "cloud" hotspots, with an iPhone you get unlimited access to these as well as unlimited EDGE/GPRS data. You don't in Ireland]]>Mar 14th 2008 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/For 39 Euro you get: 1000 minutes to any carrier, 3GB of Data transfer and usage of Hot Spots of T-Mobile within these 3GB, 25 cent per SMS

For 55 Euro you get: 1000 minutes to t-mobile, 1000 minutes to other mobile carriers, 1000 minutes to landline and 1000 SMS as well as 3GB of data and usage of Hot Spots of T-Mobile within these 3GB

Although, I must admit, the Hot Spot stuff is fairly useless, as there are hardly any Hot Spots in Austria...]]>Mar 14th 2008 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/But the time we get the iphone, its going to be all old and outdated :(]]>Mar 14th 2008 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
Do it this way.]]>Mar 14th 2008 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
You can connect to Telstras EDGE network through their 3G service.]]>Mar 14th 2008 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
And I'd say the real internet would need, you know, SOME kind of flash... ]]>Mar 14th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
Pun not intended. ]]>Mar 14th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
But, I totally agree with your comments about no 3G and no A2DP, I bought some A2DP headphones for my AT&T 8525 about 2 weeks before my phone was stolen. After getting an iTouch for Christmas, I returned it and paid the difference for the iPhone to replace my stolen 8525, now I have a pair of $100 bluetooth headphones collecting dust in my closet, lol. ]]>Mar 14th 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
My point about the sites which have to be optimized for the iPhone's "real internet" browser still stands...]]>Mar 14th 2008 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
And if you compare the price to germany it's cheaper, still way above average...

There is one t-mobile contract where u pay 19€ for almost the same, but with the iPhone u pay 55€ :D

Oh well - Apple has it's price]]>Mar 14th 2008 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
You need to look at purchasing power. Have a look at the minimum wages in either country. What is the median yearly income? It's quite simple, even my 14 year old daughter understands this: if a people in a country, such as Ireland, earn more, then the cost of getting goods to market is higher because everybody in the chain costs more, thus reflecting in the retail price to the consumer. You need to look at how many hours worked are required to buy an iPhone, not a currency exchange.]]>Mar 14th 2008 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
Well - the iPhone 16 costs 499$ and 449€ here, tho it should be around 320€ (exchange rate 1 Dollar = 0,6420€ at the moment).

The cheapest flight if ound just then (didnt look properly, would probably be even cheaper) and the price was (return) 638,26€.

So at a price difference of 179€, you had to buy... 3,5 iPhones to get the money back :D

]]>Mar 14th 2008 4:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
Good luck with the business plan though!]]>Mar 14th 2008 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
And another problem with the iphones owuld be, that u kinda had to sign a contract, aight?]]>Mar 14th 2008 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/I got my iPhone in the states 3 months ago and have been using unlocked on o2 Ireland since then. This terrible and half-arsed launch gives me no incentive to go legit, plus the deal we're getting on the call/text bundles is terrible. Paddy Tax as I heard it described. ]]>Mar 14th 2008 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
And don't go "multitouch is new" Apple didn't come up with it, they don't own it. They just made the first mainstream device with it]]>Mar 14th 2008 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 15th 2008 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
The sad part is that you could buy an iPod Touch (wifi, browsing and most other stuff in the iPhone except phone functionality), and a normal phone on a normal tariff and have a pile of cash left over. Hell, most operators will give you the phone FOR NOTHING on cheaper and shorter contracts than the iPhone.]]>Mar 14th 2008 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
And that's pretty much it, isn't it? People don't "enjoy" using other phones like that, because their UIs make them annoying to use. But sure, I suppose only a fool would want a phone that doesn't actually annoy you as you use it. Smart people much prefer to use phones with an obnoxiously bad UI. Because they're smart.]]>Mar 14th 2008 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
You do have to be stupid to swallow this deal. If you must have an iPod, get an iPod Touch. Get a phone for nothing on a cheaper tariff and use the rest to treat yourself to a holiday. You could very well save yourself 500-600 euros by doing that.

People who buy an iPhone are fools. ]]>Mar 14th 2008 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 7:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/]]>Mar 14th 2008 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Zune hates us.
The iPhone hates us.
What next?]]>Mar 14th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/
They could be waiting for the Vancouver Apple Store which opens very very soon. Most likely May.]]>Mar 14th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/ireland-and-austria-get-iphones-and-the-shaft/Mar 14th 2008 10:30AM