http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/ Engadget Comments for Who's suing Apple today? Mirror Worlds takes aim at Time Machine and more http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
I'm shocked that anyone would accuse Apple of stealing ANYTHING! They've never done it before.. *cough*]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
From article: "Submitted late last week to a Tyler Division court in the southern US state" - why am I not surprised??]]>Mar 19th 2008 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Mind you, I agree with someone else here and I also ask "who the hell allows these vague patents through"?!?!?]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
I thought you cant patent "ideas/concepts" just technology and executions. If Time Machine operates in a different manner than this companies product then Apple didn't infringe.]]>Mar 18th 2008 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
BTW if you read Mirrow Worlds patent (and Engadgets comments) their patent is for a "highly visual system that displays a line of documents and other items dating back (or forward) in time along with the option of searching these items to retrieve and edit them." - is this exactly HOW TimeMachine displays its data, thus Apple have breached the patent.

You need to forget about WHAT actual data the program is dealing with (whether it be system backups, file listings, music listings (in the case of CoverFlo) etc... its just *the process itself* for accessing that data that Mirrow Worlds have a patent.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
By posting the same idea twice, I think your post at 10:11pm might legally infringe on the idea/concept of your post made at 9:40pm.



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When patents on ideas are rewarded they often times are voided by the court. As has happened recently due to the flood of patents applications that came in in the early-mid 90's that were approved by non-tech people. Non tech people in the patent office having to approve patent submissions for technology that they know nothing about causes "ideas" and "common knowledge" to get patents that are often times overturned and revoked in time.

I'm not saying Apple is innocent, but lets get off what it looks like and look at how it works. How they index the backups and how they retrieve the backups and how they restore the backups.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
BTW I own a PowerBook so there. ]]>Mar 18th 2008 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
At least 2008 is the year that you don't have to pay $500 to downgrade your PC..]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Sorry guys, I had to go there.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
http://web.archive.org/web/20040525201018/http://scopeware.com/]]>Mar 18th 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
I, err, contrived a special way to, err...dammit, I give up.

I couldn't think of a way to work "patent" and "Apple" together...I'm sure there was a simple joke there.

I ph33l.]]>Mar 18th 2008 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Their computer system are growing in popularity and uniqueness.
It's a breath of fresh air compared to all this PC news and they have the right to have their news published on this site.

My 2¢

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Apple created back up hardware and software. There should be nothing wrong with that.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/

Don't click it,
Don't read it,
Don't comment it]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
If the company doesn't exist anymore, how are they seeking damages, Apple hasn't damaged a company that doesn't exist anymore.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Who knew the exchange rates would make our opinions worth less?]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Remember when the Iphone SDK came out, they wrote thousands of posts. and Windows Vista SPI being more importan than a SDK, the sdk gets more articles.

This blog should be called Unofficial Apple Blog and other stuff that doesn't matter to us.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
I'm not sure if that means every little patent lawsuit deserves coverage, but don't pretend like anyone cares about Vista SP1.

About the only people excited about Vista are businesses, and they have their own magazines and such aimed at taking advantage of the new features in Windows OSes that will affect what they can do in the enterprise.]]>Mar 18th 2008 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Oh, "triple damages" are treble damages, which you're awarded if another entity is found to have willfully infringed your patent (i.e. the infringer knew of the existence of the patent it infringed before it did so).

I love Engadget's legal wherewithal. "Hurr, triple damages, as though normal damages aren't good enough!" Wow, you made a funny!

Otherwise, I love Engadget's coverage. I don't know how I'd live without a post every time Steve Jobs so much as farts.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Someone patented the idea of opening up multiple windows with your various file versions? Give me a break. I'd implement it that way just because it seems like a really logical way to do it.

For code, do they have to prove that Apple had any idea who these people were?

This sort of thing makes me frightened to even consider doing business in this country, when I could come up with anything on my own and some joker with a company I never heard of could toss a 'patent' in my face because they thought of something like 'backup with multiple windows' first. This patent looks like it's for some software made back in the early Mac days. How old is this junk they're dredging up? And who is Mirror Worlds, anyway? I can't find anything about them.]]>Mar 18th 2008 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/]]>Mar 18th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
Whether that is a justification for this specific patent, or patents in general, or the lawsuits, or whatever, I will leave up to those who care...]]>Mar 18th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 18th 2008 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/
However, if Microsoft came out with software that looked like this it would mean they are copying Apple.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/whos-suing-apple-today-mirror-worlds-takes-aim-at-time-machine/Mar 19th 2008 1:32AM