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smart ass comment aside, im super psyched if this is true]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
we all know that we're getting a 3g model sometime in 2008...

smart? no, not really, but yes, definitely an ass comment.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
It is too late to challenge Adobe on the desktop/laptop browser but the field of mobile browser is still relatively open. Steve knows this, and the iPhone/iPod touch platform is his best chance to loosen Flash' negative impact on Web design (or rather to further Apple's influence on the "Web as a platform" development). Thus, this announcement is a shrewd move by Adobe - an attempt to nip the adoption of open Web media standard in the bud.]]>Mar 19th 2008 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Even microsoft (who, let's face it, aren't traditionally open people) opened silverlight pretty extensively. Adobe is the real epitomy of closed-sourceness; a lot more so than Apple are (with their BSD-based OS, WebKit browser, PDF-based graphics system, reliance on standards like vCards and CalDav, and built-in java and OpenGL)

I recently had to take my vista contacts over to my Mac. Oh, wait - the vista .contact file is a new format unsupported anywhere else, and exporting to vCard ruins lots of data. Being based on XML seems to mean open to microsoft, rather than actually using standard schemas.]]>Mar 19th 2008 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
I have a computer at home. I have a computer at work. Where I want to be able to use my smartphone to access the internet is when I am not at those places. I know your comment was towards someone else, but I've heard it before from others. Think, why would I use a phone to access the internet when I have a computer there? It's when I'm shopping, waitng at the doctor's office, etc.]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
1. Adobe are trying to make it into a popular mobile platform, which is what Apple is doing with Cocoa Touch;
2. It's slow;
3. Steve Jobs basically thinks it's crud - and while this may or may not be true, what Steve says goes;
4. The Webkit group are heavily involved in developing open alternative technologies to Flash (eg. see the WHATWG).

Apple would have little to gain and a lot to lose by allowing Flash on the iPhone. So I wonder how far that leverage will get them? Unlike Microsoft, who develop Office for Mac primarily as a favour and a way to further their monopoly, Adobe still get a very healthy share of their revenue from the Mac. So, there's a fair amount of co-dependence there.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Had that Intel switch not happened and Adobe quit supporting photoshop on the Mac, I have a feeling apple would be in a far different boat with their computing market.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Nick is right. If it weren't for CS3 and better typography support on the Mac, I'd still be using a PC. In fact, the strangle-hold that Adobe has on the art/design market means that if they were to go PC-only, many companies and employees would be forced to go PC. Apple really should be more grateful; I don't understand why they're being such biotches about a de-facto web standard.]]>Mar 19th 2008 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Still, I would like to access movie websites, web video, and other flash-enabled websites on the iphone.

Just please, Adobe, be smart about how you program it. ]]>Mar 19th 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
oh and the new [enter company here] loves [enter other company here] picture is WAY better than the old one. http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/31/amd-to-buy-ati/]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
On another note, you know what the iPhone needs? It needs VLC media player with all the codec support!]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/What other big software company is deciding that they don't have to play by the SDK's rules because they're a big name? Windows for iPhone?]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
I see a JVM being explicitly against the Apple license agreement. A flash player would probably be in violation of the letter of the agreement but probably not the intent. Since Apple reserves the right to reject applications for any reason, it all boils down to either of them negotiating terms. I doubt Apple really wants java on the iPhone. It doesn't have to allow flash as a Safari plugin but could allow it standalone (as if that were interesting).]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
And if Adobe creates this and doesn't have Apple's blessing it's basically useless. They'll need to make an entire web browser since they won't be able to make a special "plugin" for Safari without Apple's cooperation.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
No, I figure Adobe will release it, Apple will reject it, and Adobe will say "See, here's why you shouldn't trust Apple. Now, the new Android devices, on the other hand...."

And then 6 months later there will be flash on the iPhone. I predict Feb. 2009]]>Mar 19th 2008 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
But then again I'm probably missing something. That's usually the case.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 23rd 2008 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/I've zapped the lawn gnome on StrongBad Email with a Wiimote.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
I meant to say the latest version of Flash - so that I can watch online videos and tv shows, etc. Having the older version of Flash isn't very useful.]]>Mar 20th 2008 2:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Basically, as I understand it, this sounds like a bit of a workaround on Adobe's part; the actual implementation of it and how it will work in conjunction with Safari is obviously the most relevant part of all this, and yet we have no official information pertaining to it.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
You see, I am NOT interested in the "Flash Lite 3.0" standalone application, like the ones found on many cellphones. I am interested in a full Flash plugin FOR the web browser.

The LICENSE of the SDK *specifically prohibits* "plugins". Unless Adobe kisses and makes up with Apple to get special treatment, there CAN'T BE a web browser Flash plugin. Lite or full.]]>Mar 19th 2008 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/

Brutal buddy, just brutal. Funny though.]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/]]>Mar 19th 2008 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/
Even more sad is the fact that you had nothing to reply to the topic at hand. That'd teach me to reply on sites that 10 years olds are the norm.]]>Mar 19th 2008 4:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iphone/Mar 19th 2008 1:30AM