http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Really, I'm so glad Microsoft decided to take my money since Apple is all about throwing out all those FREE MP3 players and phones they have with optional software and firmware upgrades that are EXTRA FREE .... engadget ... your website fell off big time.

But since I already have a Zune 80, imma wait till the next one comes out in 2009 to but another one.

in before Apple products has/had engraving options too]]>Mar 19th 2008 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Apple products have engraving options too.

]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
How in the hell could you turn a truthful statement such as "Microsoft has decided to take your money after all" into a pro-Apple innuendo? I mean, c'mon now. I may not like this wave of pro-Apple bias that Engadget has been riding on as of late, but I also don't like it when someone tries to turn a non-issue into one for the sake of getting high ranked. Get a grip and learn to read articles for the sake of reading and not just to jump on the anti-Engadget bandwagon that's been going around.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Article 1-http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/apple-store-down-pink-ipod-nano-and-canadian-iphone-rumors-swir/
article 2-http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/ipod-nano-in-the-pink/]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/04/red-zune-coming-on-june-10th-try-and-contain-your-excitement/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/15/red-zune-80-lovey-dovey-zune-originals-artwork-emerge-for-valen/

The writing may be somewhat Apple-biased, but Engadget still posts about this stuff.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Microsofties like you are offended by that.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Oh, you misunderstand. I do agree that there's a ridiculously pro-Apple bias on this site (I mentioned that in my previous post), but there's nothing of the like in this specific article. Like I said before, I'm not a huge fan this bias; it's getting too out of hand (for example, an Apple *rumor* made breaking news).

DISCLAIMER: I own a MacBook and a 1G nano. I want a Zune and I'd like to dual-boot Vista. However, I'm too poor to do so...damn. I give credit where credit is due, and I'd have to say that Apple isn't deserving of all that it gets.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
And FYI, we're previous iPod owners. ]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Or if you find it unnecessary for me to do this, ignore it.

http://digg.com/gadgets/Red_Zune_80_available_on_Zune_Originals]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/I'm a zune fanboy now? I guess so.
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I love my Zune.]]>Mar 19th 2008 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
We were so very sure that our stuff was better and couldn't understand why the other side got all the glory while Apple was never even mentioned in conversation. Now, M$ advocates themselves can't let an article go by without dropping Apple's name. They are so very sure that their stuff is better and can't understand why Apple gets so much credit.

Keep up the good work to all involved.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
I'm not a fanboy either way, it's just how on this tech blog, you see the Apple dropped in almost every article. You can't deny that there's more than a fair share of Apple bias. . . not that it isn't undeserved. Engadget never claimed to be nonpartisan, and Apple does throw down some cool stuff.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Why don't you just READ THE COMMENTS THAT INTEREST YOU AND SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!


Now look at that, typing in caps doesn't make you cool.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/D:]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 3:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
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Nice try in souring another Zune post.

I have met actually met several Zune owner with WiFi on in the NW Houston area. And yes, there are a 'few' songs that won't be shared. But who cares?

Sharing isn't the main feature of the Zune. Playing media is the main focus of any PMP. I just share some of my fave songs, and good Zune background pictures I have.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.cliczune.com/2008/03/red-zune-80gb-i.html]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
If you actually went on the Zune Originals site (or even post the link for that matter) you'll see the fee for that is "waived". Check it out yourself: http://zuneoriginals.net/

Sigh. Some of these commenters are right about the quality given for MS-related posts.]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
It comes out as $249.99 when you checkout.

Same for the Black Zune 80 as well. The fee on that one is also waived when I checked it out again a few moments ago.

Actually, ALL the Zunes sold on Zune Original site currently have the engraving stuff "waived". I don't know where you got the $10-$15 from. I saw the site earlier this afternoon and the Red Zune 80 still had the engraving "waived".
]]>Mar 19th 2008 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
So here's the "real" details:

Red Zune 80 by itself : $249.99
- with artwork : $259.99
- with inscription : $249.99

Artwork is NOT waived. Inscription IS waived.

There, fixed that. So please update the post Nilay.
]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Can we have one in Canada please ?

Thank You,
Residents of Canada.]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 19th 2008 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
I never used a Zune so even if I made fun of it, it really doesn't mean squat. The Apple fanboys just like to badmouth the Zune just to get a rise out of the Microsoft fanboys. Why can't it just be in good fun? If the Engadget site is so biased towards Apple then why do the Microsoft fanboys even bother to read Apple or Mac articles?

You should realize by now that any articles having to do with Zune or Vista are gonna be targets of Apple fanboyism. I'm an Apple fanboy that likes using Microsoft products such as WinXP and MS Office, but it still is enjoyable poking fun at MS products. I don't hate MS or Zune users. Some of you take this "I hate all Microsoft/Apple products and users" a little too far. You'd really be better off just skipping over the article if it's that upsetting to ya.]]>Mar 19th 2008 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Since when is it "fun" to rile up people? It's like constantly teasing a person for a mistake they did, or something embarrassing. It's annoying and makes you look like an antagonist. It's not cool.

I admit there are times when some people cry over small potatoes, but what they mean is still pretty much true. Look at Weblogs Inc. top 3 tech blogs:

Engadget : I know of at least 3 main Apple-leaning writers. 0 Microsoft-leaning writers. There have been a 'few' non-sarcastic MS posts, but not many.

TUAW : One Apple blog at Weblogs Inc. Zilch for MS.

DownloadSquad : This one sort of has a Linux/Mac lean. There's often posts called "Flipping the Linux Switch" where this person tries to advise people on how to switch to Linux from Windows. And there's a weekly Googleholic stuff.

So where's any MS love at all at Weblogs? That's why some people are trying to speak up.]]>Mar 20th 2008 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Maybe you should stop drinking the Apple koolaid and take a peek for yourself.]]>Mar 20th 2008 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 3:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/Mar 20th 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Lets see, you have had several hours to work on this project. Perhaps I need to reiterate the question. I think your retention level might be in the low fifty percentile, and you need help to jog your memory. Never say I did not try to help you out.

"Why don't you list some of the MS groundbreaking, headline grabbing, paradigm shifting products then to prove me wrong? Go ahead, you should be able to do it in minutes right?"]]>Mar 20th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
"Jubei, you're such a fool- I'm not even going to finish reading that tripe."

I refused to finish it- stopped at "inability to read" (which you have proven for yourself), therefore I never saw said question, and I'm not going to answer, as I'm not going to entertain any more idiotic arguments from you.

Good day, you fanboy.]]>Mar 20th 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/

"Why don't you list some of the MS groundbreaking, headline grabbing, paradigm shifting products then to prove me wrong? Go ahead, you should be able to do it in minutes right?"

]]>Mar 20th 2008 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
They do have hardware and some gadgets, but not on the same level as Apple. Microsoft is just getting and working their way into making more hardware stuff.

There's a lot of interesting software stuff (esp. if you saw Mix08) that won't get mentioned at all on Engadget. Because software isn't gadgets. Maybe if you saw more beyond gadgets, you would understand. ]]>Mar 20th 2008 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
Really, so Engadget rarely or doesn't cover software news? Well looks like we have a two for one special here folks. Do yourself a favor, and read what you just wrote. Think of the word "oxymoron". Yes, I think that sums up your post quite well.]]>Mar 20th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/]]>Mar 20th 2008 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/red-zune-80-now-available-but-only-with-zune-originals-engrav/
The Zune on the other hand, has a better chance for great mobile gaming/media as a tight combo for a multi-purposed machine. It has a much better control mechanism (The squircle, which can be TACTILE AND TOUCH SENSITIVE, CAN YOUR LOVELY CLICKWHEEL DO THAT IPOD? Anyways, it has great controls, it has a better CPU than the ipod (it's faster than the 30GB, and the 30GB was like 400mhz, the current ipod is a lot less) and it has a much bigger screen, and you know what else?? It's got WIFI, which many people touted/still tout as useless, but now it can be used for online games! And since these games are community-based, there will be way more than Apple will ever have, they will be more fun than what some developers do (lots of homebrew games are really fun, you don't have to be a developer at some company to come up with a good game) So, here's what the Zune has to offer-

-Large screen
-Touch-sensitive controls that don't get the screen dirty/get your fingers in the way of gameplay (the iphone has that problem)
-Wifi that can be used for Xbox live on the go (maybe it will be called Zune live?)
-Community based games, where even YOU can go and develop a game and then to submit it, it only coasts $100. Talk about low development costs!
-In-game music capabilities (wasn't the ipod built originally for music? Looks like it's losing it's roots)

What the ipod has to offer-
-Clickwheel for controls (perfect for circular-based games (Hint:good circle based games), which don't really exist!
-Smaller screen than Zune, although the Iphone's and Ipod touch's screens are slightly bigger.
-Slower processor
-Touch screen controls on the Iphone, which is cool and all, but it smudges and gets dirty, so you end up cleaning it all of the time. And your fingers get in the way of gaming sometimes.
-Wifi only on the Iphone and Ipod touch, and only the iphone is getting games, not the ipod touch. Apple would never be able to build an online gaming platform like Microsoft's. Look at sony and nintendo, they've been trying for years now, and they are still playing catch-up!

The bottom line-

Microsoft- (Quote from J-Allard)-“We didn’t want people to think ‘Tetris on the iPod,’ we wanted them to think ‘Xbox 360 in my pocket’

Apple- (This is straight from Apple's Ipod games page- It’s like carrying a whole arcade in your pocket.
Link-http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/games/

So for mobile gaming, which would you have, the whole arcade in your pocket, or an Xbox 30 in your pocket? (Xbox 360 also offers arcade games, so you'd basically be getting BOTH!)

I think I'll go with the Zune on gaming, and the Zune's touchpad is soo much better than the ipod's clickwheel.
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