http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/ Engadget Comments for RED ONE camera gets wrangled into Super 8 telecine system http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
That's "Mad Science".]]>Mar 24th 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 25th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 25th 2008 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
1080p/24 is the same frame displayed every 24th of a second (standard motion picture film frame rate),

The Key is in the Processing!

1080p processing can be done at the source, such as on a Upscaling DVD Player, Blu-ray Disc Player, or HD-DVD player - or it can be done by the HDTV itself.

Depending on the actual video processors used, there may or may not be a difference in having the TV do the final processing (referred to as deinterlacing) step of converting 1080i to 1080p.

For instance, if the TV is utilizing a Faroudja Genesis, DVDO, Silicon Optix HQV, or homegrown processors, such as the ones used in higher-end Sony, Pioneer, Hitachi, and Panasonic sets for example, may be equal to the processors used in many source components - so the results displayed on screen should be equivalent, or very close. Any differences would be more noticable on larger screen sizes.
From: http://hometheater.about.com/od/televisionbasics/qt/1080ivs1080p.htm ]]>Mar 25th 2008 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/it depends on th film stock you are using an exposure among other issues. film can get 4k and over 8k from the original negative. digital still has a ways to go though. maybe another decade it will top film fully though. the red one is awesome, i have shot footage using it. prob one of the best digital cameras i ever used. i pla on getting my own next year, since its pretty affordable . total package only cost around 50-60k or so. plus thats cheaper than most cameras alone.

only issue is solid state hard drive capacity. i hope we ca get some realy fast high capacity ones. the 64 gb ones arent enough. 4k is nearly 2 gb a min for video footage shot in 24fps.. granted its cheaprt than film of course. but it doesnt replace film yet.

many big productions shoot on film and go digital for green screen work for special effects.

but its all about the look you are going for though.]]>Mar 24th 2008 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
Most of the prosumer base is intelligent, but not always.]]>Mar 24th 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/Mar 24th 2008 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
Star Wars Ep II and III were shot digitally, but delivered to you on a DVD. That doesn't mean they should have shot it on MiniDV. You always wanna shoot with the highest quality capture. And for now, for the money, Red is that camera.]]>Mar 25th 2008 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/OK, This Is A Great Example of Someone Having Way Money Than Brains.
And Too Think - I Was Feeling Bad About Down Converting 1080p to DVD For A
Commercial! Yea, Better Not Tell Them How A $4000 HDV Cam Actually Would Of Fit Their Needs Better - And Saved Them Some $$$. Oh, And I Bet They Had A Easy Time Getting Accustomed To It's Finicky RAW Acquisition Characteristics! 4K(4096) Down To 1/2 A K (480)SD! Thanks For Given Me a Laugh! ]]>Mar 24th 2008 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
Definitely one of the most uninformed comments in this article (and that says a lot). Ask yourself this. Why is it that for the past 40 years, MOST commercials (car commercials, beer, whatever) are shot on 35mm film? Even though High-Def television didn't even exist? I'll give you a few minutes to figure that one out.

Obviously you're a amateur. HDV is probably the WORST format to shoot on for standard def. The compression ratio is through the roof, and most of the cameras suck. They're not pro cameras with real lenses. Digibeta, BetaSP, or DV50 is a thousand times better as far as color and depth of field. HDV is only good for when it has to be HD, and you need to spend as little money as humanly possible.

The RED is without question the most revolutionary camera in terms of what you get for your money. Nothing comes even remotely close to it. It's not about 4k resolution. It's basically a frickin film camera with the convenience of digital workflow that costs 1/10th of what a film camera costs.]]>Mar 25th 2008 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
Y'all remember disc film, right? I worked at a photo lab for a year and processed 100,000 rolls of the stuff before going to grad school. :-P]]>Mar 25th 2008 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about. Shooting RED 4K for distribution in standard def makes perfect sense for a few reasons.

1. Downconverting from a higher res file results in better image quality than if originally shot in lower res. Thus shooting 1080p for standard is better than just shooting standard and shooting 4K for distribution in standard or HD makes a lot of sense.

2. RED has qualities that are very much like film, meaning the image doesn't look like video crap like HDV would produce. However, you are spending far less than film and you have a digital workflow, making this a very viable option.

3. HDV just sucks. It has its uses, but anything beyond super low budget should not be shot on it. As mentioned, it blows for any keying (it's as bad if not worse than miniDV) and it has no dynamic range.

4. Oh yes, RED has support for full 35mm lenses as well as many others, without needing an adapter, such as a super 35 (I think that's the name) for use on a F900.

I think I've made my point.]]>Mar 25th 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/
The pic has started a nice little conversation though.]]>Apr 10th 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/24/red-one-camera-gets-wrangled-into-super-8-telecine-system/I can see how the red could make it much easier to make the transfer look good.

1.Raw capture; allows for a lot more fine tuning in post. Color correcting on the fly is stressful, limits you to reel time techniques and often requires running the film through the machine multiple times.

2. Resolution: 4k is probably over kill for a super 8. So I guess you probably don't need to fill the senser. You wouldn't need to spend hours lineing up the gate to the senser perfectly. You could over shoot the film and crop into your red image in post pretty easily untill you have it right where you want it and still have plenty of pixels to down scale from to 1080.

I'd rather down scale than up scale my digital image.

It seems like a swing shift lens system could come in handy.
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