http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/ Engadget Comments for PWN 2 OWN contest lets hackers choose Vista, OS X or Linux http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
There are many, many security certifications. None of them are training to become a hacker, but rather a very loose test of you security knowledge (considering they are multiple choice scantron tests they don't even test if you could do something in practice, just that you know the correct bubble to fill in. Also, the various certifications having varying degrees of depth). The books and courses that train for the certification train for the tests (I say this having the CEH and currently working on my CISSP). There are dozens of better security books that familiarize people with attack concepts, but the best way to learn is to read that material and then socialize with people who know a great deal more (either on the internet, or the app/host/network security guys at your company), pretty much like all other knowledge.]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/On another note, when will they introduce Certified Ethical Politicians?]]>Mar 27th 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
You are wrong, one of the voices of the hackmother will visit you]]>Mar 27th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
Just like Harry Potter?]]>Mar 27th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/ http://www.2600.com/
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps259/index.html
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Wapner, WAPNER!!!!]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
Niiiice...]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
Kind of like "zOMG". The Z key was accidentally hit on the way to the Shift button.]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_United_States_Dvorak.svg]]>Mar 27th 2008 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
TRUE HACKERS build better versions of their hacked OS and rename it with a custom handle.

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You don't know what the hell you're talking about, do you? A smart coder can use any OS to his/her dirty work, though I would avoid a Windows box in an effort at efficiency.

Besides, most hacks are much simpler than security people would like to admit.

Gian]]>Mar 27th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
I dont want to make it seem like im picking on your, but dang dude. You don't really have a clue what you are talking about. A hacker will use what ever gets the job done. Be it vista, Ubuntu or Tiger. To paint hackers with such a broad brush saying they are above simple consumer oriented operating systems tells me you watch too much "The Net" and "Matrix". Man.]]>Mar 27th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/19.6k The U.S. Dollar is tanking.]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 28th 2008 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
Please don't tell me you are sitting down on your computer wearing green tights, cause honestly, I really don't want that image in my mind.]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
After bypassing your mom's belkin firewall, I would add a bunch of bookmarks to your FF to various economic resources that would educate you on how capitalism works and how it benefits you more than a communist system of taking one person's money and handing to another person who doesn't deserve it.

Then I would modify your DNS settings so that all the blogs and forums you attempt to go to forward to sesamestreet.com because its apparent you need that more than we need you contributing to this blog.]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF205-Robin_Hood.jpg]]>Mar 27th 2008 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
Better call my stockbroker and ask what software he's using. You do realize the oil companies are publicly-owned and traded, right? That means anybody can be making profits right now, as long as they own stock.]]>Mar 27th 2008 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
see: http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/26/day-one-cansecwest-pwn-to-own-results]]>Mar 27th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/1. There is no posible way to setup Windows to behave like OS X or Linux, they would to rewrite the whole thing :-P
2. I know the most powerful DoS attack for Windows ever (sadly, I can't travel to USA right now and win the prize) --> just turn on the Windows machine and wait ;-D]]>May 10th 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
True, a BSOD is imminent!!! ]]>Mar 27th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/Mar 27th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-contest-lets-hackers-choose-vista-os-x-or-linux/
weird.
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IOW, since there's really no "default install" for linux, it's hard to imagine a direct comparison to such an install in Vista or OSX.

The main reason I'd like to see the specific builds is so that I can recreate them for use in my own pentest lab(s) and wargaming at work... ;)
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