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D'oh!]]>Mar 28th 2008 7:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/1.21 jigawatts!





(spelling nazis be damned. I know its gigawatt, but its pronounced jigga (like Jay-Z), look it up.)]]>Mar 28th 2008 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/"The Universe was formed at God's(elohim/ anunnaki) command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible."(Hebrews 11:3).
2)Google(www.ufodigest.com):
- Modern Science and the Ancient Writings on the Genesis of the Solar System
- The Heart Kidneys Theory and the Psychology of the Future
- The Genesis of the Monkey People and the Genesis of the Anunnaki People
3)The book "Planet Eris and the Global Warming" (can be found at Amazon).
4)Google:
- CPH Theory NASA AND PLANET X
(CPH = Creative Particles of Higgs)
http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-937,00,00.html]]>Apr 9th 2008 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Nothing about arrogance here. Just one idiot that happens to be an American.]]>Mar 28th 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
]]>Mar 28th 2008 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
we don't have courts that have the right to decide whats best for the entire world.]]>Mar 28th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/"we don't have courts that have the right to decide whats best for the entire world."

Remember the great internet outage of 2007? Well that was around the time that the memo, stating what you just said, was emailed to the world. I guess that guy didn't get a copy.

Anyway, my point is, I deleted my copy of that email, could you be a dear and forward a copy of yours to him.]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
thank you personaly for WW2

by chance, here in europe, we are not directed by the biggest asshole ever and we never saw 2 towers "magicaly" falling down to start a war for money and oil. ]]>Mar 28th 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
...Why should CERN, an organization of European nations based in Switzerland, even show up in a Hawaiian courtroom?

In an interview, Wagner said, "I don't know if they're going to show up." CERN would have to voluntarily submit to the court's jurisdiction, he said, adding that he and Sancho could have sued in France or Switzerland, but to save expenses they had added CERN to the docket here. He claimed that a restraining order on Fermilab and the Energy Department, which helps to supply and maintain the accelerator's massive superconducting magnets, would shut down the project anyway."

That's why.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/29/europe/physics.php]]>Apr 2nd 2008 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
See that, it hasn't even gone before a judge yet!

In the United States, any legal citizen has the right to bring suit against ANYONE in the world, for ANYTHING. It doesn't mean it will make it to trial!

Any reasonable judge will put this claim through a series of tests to establish, through what are called "long-arm statutes," whether or not the court even has the ability to make a ruling that can be upheld (read: jurisdiction).

Most likely the court will find that there will be no jurisdiction and the case will be dismissed, so don't get in a huff about what the American courts can and can't do, because most likely they can't or won't deal with this (preposterous) claim.

All you people with no idea about how the United States legal system works getting your panties in a twist over what you see as a world policing action and all it is, is a LEGAL MOTION.

Would you all get this worked up if I went and filed a motion for a restraining order against the Queen of England from waving in that stuffy, British fashion?]]>Mar 28th 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
I think THAT is arrogance at it's best (or rather... worst...).]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
"the concern about the verity of Hawking radiation was not addressed"

I find it rather disturbing they are willing to start this machine up and start creating black holes all on the theory that Hawking radiation DOES exist. If it doesn't...

"The concern is [attribution needed] that Hawking radiation (which is still debated) is not yet an experimentally-tested, or naturally observed phenomenon, and so micro black holes might not decay as rapidly as calculated, thereby accumulating inside the earth and 'devouring' it." - Wikipedia]]>Mar 28th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
So no, I don't really care what opinionated ignoramuses think, regardless of which country they're from. ;-P

However I do think that any legal system which has to even listen to garbage like this should seriously consider having a bit of a reform, if only to save the money wasted on hearing pointless cases like this.]]>Mar 28th 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Suing in Hawaii he won't be successful and we will all be wiped out. I'm crying for humanity.]]>Mar 28th 2008 7:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
What F'in right do the US courts have to tell them whether or not they can perform scientific tests.

Yeah, the LHC does now have the power to create microscopic black holes. thats why the buried it underground. and they need the power in order to study the world around us. ie smash stuff up. (might as well buy a blender eh?)

A man made black hole of the largest size possible (By calculation using possible energy levels at play) will have the power to destroy a part of the machine but will dissipate at such a fast rate that any effects will not reach ground level.

At what point did america give idiotic scaremongeros get the right to stop the scientific community in its tracks.]]>Mar 28th 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/To get back to my point, what if those wonderful all-knowing experts (that for some strange reason still need to study what happens) are wrong in their predictions and start a thing that destroys the planet huh? I'm sure there's a site with lists of things scientist failed with that killed many many people, I don't think it's wrong to question things and to ask for a review if it's really smart to do certain tests.]]>Mar 28th 2008 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Bob: I am not pissed because someone has questioned the validity of scientific thought, i am pissed that he has even been granted a hearing. It is not a bash at the general american population but a bash at this man and the courts decision to hold a conference on the issue.

Wwhat: many have fallen ill/died in the sake of scientific advancement. they took the risks and got burnt. but without those pioneers we wouldn't be where we are today. also many have not died and not fallen ill. it is a calculated risk that they are willing to take. otherwise they wouldn't work there.

I understand that it is a risky business, but i would rather they experiment and put the theories to test than to assume they are correct. i personally don't believe in string theory and the Higgs boson but if they manage to find one then i will have to change my mind.]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Americans elected George W. Bush. Twice. I'd say that's proof that there are more than a "few" moron Americans.]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Uh no, they didn't.

Just because YOU find quantum mechanics difficult to understand and therefore scary doesn't mean you have the right to tell informed, intelligent people to stop what they're doing.]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/

(sarcasm...)]]>Mar 28th 2008 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
Actually, the American people elected Gore the first time. The Electoral College chose Bush due to the whole Florida issue, but the Supreme Court later ruled that Gore had won the popular election. So don't blame the American people; blame the American bureaucracy.]]>Mar 28th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/
As far as I know though no-one in Switzerland gives two hoots about what a Judge thinks in a US Court. I think the two plaintiffs seem to think that US law is applicable in the rest of the world... erm nope.

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I swear there's a Sci Fi book about this exact scenario; a particle accelerator escalating to a full on black hole. Actually there's probably more than one, just one that I've heard of. ]]>Mar 28th 2008 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 28th 2008 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/us-lawsuit-calls-large-hadron-collider-a-doomsday-machine-higgs/Mar 30th 2008 7:09PM