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Do I have a choice?

When will WiMax get off the ground?]]>Apr 4th 2008 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
3 years for a cellular service doesn't seem so bad.]]>Apr 4th 2008 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 7th 2008 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
I tried Google and so far I only know of LTE and WiMax. Are there any other big names I should know about?]]>Apr 4th 2008 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 15th 2008 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Aren't LTE and WIMAX pretty much the same? WIMAX is a more open 4G standard, right?]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Do you really feel comfortable jumping on a Sprint backed technology?

at&t and Verizon are both going with LTE. I think I can wait for the big boys to get their networks going.]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
The comment system, apparently, decided it makes more sense down here, completely out of context. Sorry guys, I know this makes no sense down here.]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
The short-term solution that is not discussed enough is the simple software upgrade from Rev A (the flavor of EvDO, 3G, used by Sprint and VZW and others now) to Rev B, which is several times faster. It requires only a software upgrade and could be fully deployed in months, if they wanted to. I dont understand the drive to move to LTE because Rev B would provide speeds that 99.9% of people would be happy with (faster than most decent cable modems today) at a much lower cost and shorter time frame. Qualcom already has the tech ready to go - VZW just needs to be deployed. Another advantage is that it is backwards compatible with all previous generations - RevA, Rev0, 1x - all CDMA. Of course LTE speeds would be nicer, but will likely be more expensive, and again, take several years to roll out. Triple speeds now, or quintuple several years later at a higher price? Easy call, isnt it?]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 7th 2008 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Then there is China who wants to upgrade their current TD-SCDMA system to meet 4G standards. But then again, their 3G network is still in construction...]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
There's UMB, TD-SCDMA, WIMAX, LTE, and that's pretty much it for viable 4G standards. Of those, LTE is looking like the real winner, with Verizon and AT&T and most other operators around the world going towards it. ]]>Apr 4th 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
In a perfect world: The Nuviphone comes out and lives up to the hype. Sprint gets "gobbled" by Verizon and gives up WiMax for LTE. Verizon starts to see competition in the market of unlimited talk and data and lowers the price on their everything plan to something affordable for a college student. Also, nobody ever asks about blending or Doom, because they finally realize that those jokes are beyond old.]]>Apr 4th 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 5th 2008 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
then you're doing it wrong and it is not a reply. Just an FYI.]]>Apr 4th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Thanks for the summary. It definitely makes more sense to me. I'm stuck with Sprint for now but I can't wait till the new iPhone drops or someone comes up with something truly better.]]>Apr 4th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Rev A has been running on 1.25MHz bandwidth. Rev B needs 5MHz, making it more difficult that u think to upgrade their systems. This would also likely take some time to find the spectrum they have now that they won't use for LTE. Then upgrading the structures could take some time too. (see Xohm)

It seems to make more sense to me to concentrate resources on getting LTE out asap.]]>Apr 4th 2008 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/you don't need to do a contract. just buy your phones at no commitment. you pay more for the phone but no contract. or you can buy it from the manufacture.]]>Apr 4th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
That said, RevB has a good chance of being deployed in the interim by Sprint or Verizon, while we wait for LTE or WiMax to be ready. Expect those to be later than you expect, because things always take longer than you'd like. If they're saying 2010, I wouldn't hold my breath.. figure field trials then and real deployments later.

Finally, WiMax and LTE are both going to be based on the same sort of air interface (OFDM), so I'd bet that if one of them end up working, both of them probably will. They will be incompatible, but based on the same concepts (just like UMTS and CDMA).]]>Apr 4th 2008 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 15th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Here is to pirate long range Wi-Fi! ]]>Apr 4th 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/ WiMax is not working in real-world applications worldwide

Mobile WiMax is fully operational in its native land, Korea.

> Sprint is soon going to announce that it has abandoned its WiMax plans.

Sprint has to have something up and running by 2009, or they lose the spectrum. They have no choice but to go Mobile WiMax all the way.

> Instead, LTE is the 4G technology of choice.

LTE is not 4G. But neither is current Mobile WiMax Wave 2.

> The problem with LTE is that it will take years to improve backhauling and deploy the network.

And Mobile WiMax will be upgraded to real 4G by the time LTE launches.

> I dont understand the drive to move to LTE because Rev B would provide speeds that 99.9% of people would be happy with (faster than most decent cable modems today) at a much lower cost and shorter time frame.

People dislike doing business with Qualcomm.

> Triple speeds now, or quintuple several years later at a higher price? Easy call, isnt it?

You as a consumer no choice since Intel's putting Mobile WiMax in all of its future Centrino laptops. Which service are you going to sign up for, a service that is built into your laptop and MID or another service that must be added via USB dongle?]]>Apr 4th 2008 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/
Isn't LTE inherently faster then wimax any way? I think the carriers should use an agreed upon standard for 4 g. So devices can be used globally.

I will be interesting to see how everything plays out. I’m surprised that no international companies have put in a takeover bid for Sprint. With the weak USD and an almost 30 billion dollar right down, someone could get them on the cheap.
]]>Apr 4th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/I want LTE now god damn!]]>Apr 4th 2008 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/Apr 4th 2008 3:19PM