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The thing is, Intel got the most chips, it will win ultimately. How many rounds of all-in can VIA or AMD toss at Intel for trying to gain a little more competitive edge?]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
As for Intel's power consumption problems, most people think this was due to a brute force approach to speed simply because power draw increased over time as Intel's chips got faster. The actual cause of this was power loss due to quantum tunneling -- as the silicon dioxide approached a few atoms in thickness, the electrons in the circuit were tunneling right past the gate at an alarming rate under Netburst's design.

In fact, this was one of the major hurdles for the Penryn project, where their new hafnium (I think) gate material allows for a thicker barrier (thus cutting down on power loss due to tunneling) while facilitating a better conduction (which of course makes the circuit faster).

It's fascinating stuff. There's a detailed description of the Penryn innovation out there (I think I found it on Ars Technica). If you've suffered through some university-level chemistry or physics courses (and remember them, of course ^~), you'll probably have a fairly good idea of what it's talking about.

I, for one, am more excited about Larabee than I ever could be about Atom. I'm not even sure there's much point to Intel reaching into this market, given how determined Via is to hold onto it (it's really their only business after all) and how strong that hold is.

Of course, all this needs to be taken with a grain of NaCl -- these are first silicon, after all.]]>Apr 18th 2008 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/May 29th 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
Quite frankly I think Intel has lost their view, they're all about brute force, it's all a Ghz game with Intel, and my personal experience has shown that they've forgotten about all the rest of it.

I'm sure i'm going to get flammed by all the Intel fan boys, i'm not saying AMD is that much better, in some respects they are but not in all.

VIA will maintain the low power market I believe, does anyone checked out www.mini-itx.com frequently? They've been in the market for a long time is all i'm trying to say.

Let the flames be thrown!]]>Apr 18th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
After Intel ditched Pentium and started basing everything off the Core architectures, they really have started looking at power consumption, even for desktop machines. AMD recently released a line of power saving chips that competed directly with Intel's standard line.
Like AMD and the Athlon 64+ series, Intel went back and started making sure each clock cycle could do as much as possible, ending their GHz racing streak, in my opinion for the better. Yes, the clock speeds are rising once again (the inital Core desktop CPUs topped out under 3ghz) but that is not to say that Intel is just going for brute force, especially considering that their current desktop processor has a processing step pipeline closer in length to an A64 or mobile Dothan core than the Prescott/Cedar Mill Pentiums.

Even since Intel started focusing on mobile CPUs as an individual asset (and that does NOT include "Mobile Pentium 4") power consumption has been a very important focus on their mobile chips, which has indeed carried over to their desktop products, which you now see in the form of 45nm die sizes, speedstepping, etc.

Now, an intel sticker on my machine doesn't go as far as to make me "feel secure", but there's nothing about hardware that's buggy either... i didn't think there were CPU drivers. But at this point i think Intel does have the best all around product set around. Props to them for venturing into the ultra mobile, ultra low voltage/power consumption field. Even if at first they don't succeed (seems their success in mobile, desktop, and server products has got their reputation hyped quite high) they'll hopefully improve and push the field as they do.

*sighs* back to linear algebra]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
The Pentium dual cores Exxxx are real fast , they're cut down models of the Core 2 duo. Mine's humming along at 2.835GHz, 1Ghz above normal. :)]]>Apr 20th 2008 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
Do you need fairly low power requirements and very decent number-crunching performance? Isaiah wins here.

Is it stellarly low power requirements and average computing performance? Atom is your horse.
]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Isaiah: 25W TDP @ 2.0GHz

I'm not missing a decimal point here... at 10 times the power consumption I don't think Isaiah is besting Atom.]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 19th 2008 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Atom]]>Apr 18th 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/2423035895_c58722e81a_o.jpg]]>Apr 18th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
"The VIA Isaiah has a 25 Watt TDP while the Atom has a max 2.5 Watt."]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Isaiah was designed to compete against Pentium/Celeron/Core Solo in laptops/desktops.
Atom was designed to compete against ARM cpus in small mobile devices.]]>Apr 18th 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/May 21st 2008 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/I'm having flashbacks to the Dreamcast now.]]>May 29th 2008 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Guys, get real, this thing is supposed to be able to get your web browser up and running, as well as some simple video playback (I don't have doubts it will even chew up high-def video), some Excel, Word ect. Its not supposed to replace your PC! What kind of real-world test you wait for?

Get real! The less power this thing eats while playing vids the better it is. As for performance - as long as nothing stutters, who cares what processor makes more FPS in crysis?! You're not going to play it on 7-10 inch screen anyways!]]>Apr 18th 2008 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/May 21st 2008 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/Apr 18th 2008 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/
++ maybe its just cos I'm English, but I would'nt call my son Isiah, i think I probs prefer Conroe.

but we have to accept that CPUs are really, really jewish. ]]>May 15th 2008 6:04PM