http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Actually I loathe Apple (not that its relevant).

I was just saying that cause I'm a big fan of pushing graphics forward too, and have no interest in the Wii. I wouldn't go so far as to say its a bad system, though. ]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/"Actually I loathe Apple (not that its relevant). was just saying that cause I'm a big fan of pushing graphics forward too, and have no interest in the Wii. I wouldn't go so far as to say its a bad system, though. "

ummmmm..if you like garphics so much then why do you hate apple..the just do everything difrent than micosoft and a littel (or with vista a lot) better..peopel dont by macs for games you want a game sestem by a xbox or a ps3 or a windos computer just dont go pissing all over apple 'caus it cant "play doom"]]>Apr 21st 2008 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
"ummmmm..if you like garphics so much then why do you hate apple..the just do everything difrent than micosoft and a littel (or with vista a lot) better..peopel dont by macs for games you want a game sestem by a xbox or a ps3 or a windos computer just dont go pissing all over apple 'caus it cant "play doom"

Actually, I didn't say anything like that. I don't like Apple products for other reasons (I'm not going to get into them cause theres no reason to start a flame war... its just my personal preference).

As for gaming, it just makes sense for me to play on Windows. I like to build my own machines. I also like to see graphics get pushed to new levels. Sure, its an expensive cycle for early adopters, but I can appreciate Capps' position. I don't think he needs to hate on the Wii so much, since there are plenty of platforms for him to build games on, but hes a businessman. ]]>Apr 21st 2008 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yU]]>Apr 21st 2008 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 28th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/2) Epic's Gears of War is probably the best looking console game ever made. Epic certainly don't piss away resources.]]>Apr 21st 2008 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Anyway, while I agree that the Wii is no marvel of technology graphically, it's nice to see that Nintendo is branching off and trying new things. We've gone so far down the road of graphic detail that it's not even worth noting anymore, and as a result, one good game spawns 1000 knockoffs, none as good as the original. Is the Wii a 100% success? No, but there is always room for improvement. Even that "future-proof" PS3 will get an update in a few months and will probably give the shaft to all early adopters (much like how the PSP Slim and Lite is the only one getting new features now). I look at the Wii as a step beyond the proof-of-concept, and once Nintendo has seen how it works in vivo, we'll get a better next-gen product.]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
They should not have any problem creating fun and profitable games for the Wii then. Epic's problem isn't that the Wii is anemic. Epic's problem is that the Wii is not a hardware platform for first-person-shooters. So because Epic can't do anything but make FPS's, the Wii must be fundamentally flawed.

I'm sorry, I should have used the title "software developers" but the term escaped me as I wrote my comment. "Engineer" was the closest that came to mind. And yes]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
And yes they are pissing away resources if the only way they can improve the profitability is by bumping up the eye-candy. ]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Huh??? And how is this exactly? No, the Wii doesn't have the visual horsepower of the other current-gen consoles, but I don't recall first-person shooters posing a problem for the original Xbox, which the Wii certainly equals if not betters.

And I'd love to see a console controller better suited to shooters than the Wiimote. Analog thumbstick? Puh-lease. Try RE4: Wii or Metroid Prime 3 to see how laughably bad shooter controls are on XB360 or PS3.

I greatly savor the thought of a shooter using the Wiimote for aiming/shooting and the Wiifit board for moving around (think Hoverboard in Unreal Tournament 3 but in a forward-stance, like the Green Goblin's "goblin glider"). A game like that could easily be the best (and most realistic) shooter of all time. Bonus: it would get lazy gamers off the sofa. Imagine the fun of playing a game like that with friends.

No, Epic's problem is they aren't willing to step back from the poly-count wars and come up with a killer FPS for the Wii.

Think different, Epic.]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/]]>Apr 21st 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
EPIC's proboem with the Wii is that people buy the console, play it for two months and then after that never use it again.

This results in a huge hardware install base that does not buy any games.

All the developers are scrambling to make games for it because of very successful hardware sales, but no one will buy the games, which is what he is pointing out.

Although the 3.7 per console tie ratio does not seem to be that bad as the leader is only 1 game more than that at 4.7 (360)]]>Apr 21st 2008 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Amen, sing it brother.

As for this prez from Epic, dude quit being a douch and realize that most of us are still playing our wiis. Everyone i know who bought one still plays it and enjoys it. It was the discreet lack of games at the beginning that bored everyone. Remember a couple years ago before the wii came out how no one was banking on the wii even lasting a month, so duh, no games were made. Now, rather than sitting on the sidelines whining like a little bi*ch, create a really cool game that makes people want to play their wiis. It has been a really long time since i've played a game that I couldn't put down. I'm still waiting, and if you think you're all mighty as a dev, then I guess us wii owners should be calling you out on this one!]]>Apr 21st 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Regarding that douchebag from Epic, he talks as if Galaxy or Brawl never happened.]]>Apr 21st 2008 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/i knew i shoulda gotten the w!!]]>Apr 21st 2008 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
When did this happen?]]>Apr 21st 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/reread the statement you wrote a few times, then think about how silly what you wrote sounds...
lol
]]>Apr 21st 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
I guess No More Heroes is pretty good, but one really good game with motion controls over a year after the console ships is pretty awful. And it's not even first party. Of course the legions of Wiidiots are going to chime in "it's not a system for hard core games" followed by lots whining and waving their arms about. Not really sure what "hard core" games are but I guess they involve fun because the Wii is just sad. The best game on the system is a free game that was supposed to be a tech demo.]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
3rd Party: "I like your engine can you sell us the Wii version? That console has the biggest market for own game!"

Epic: "nah, the Wii sucks use the xbox360 instead! it's HD!"

3rd Party: "xbox360? nah, I made a game for xbox360 and sold like shit, we wanna try the Wii, can you send it to us?"

Epic: "mmmm, we don't have any development tools for the Wii..."

3rd Party: "Ok... Thanks anyways, I'll think about it... bye..."

Epic: "..."]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Perhaps you think they're ports because they only look marginally better than the GC... but that's because the Wii is very much a GC inside. While TP was just barely different than its GC counterpart, I can't see how a GC would have ever pulled SSBB off.

I'm not saying that you're wrong about the shovelware, and the actual ports (looking at you, Resident Evil 4), but be precise, please.]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Probably just worried about developing a game for a system that a lot of people own but do not buy games. Good for Nintendo and their hardware sales, bad for developers and their game sales.

]]>Apr 21st 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
Typical non-gamer Wii owners. You know nothing about hardware, software, the game industry or the hardcore gamer demographic. You are NOT a gamer like those are that play Xbox 360 PC, and PS3. You are a casual gamer that played Wii sports at your friends house, thought it was fun, and bought the system. I know so many people (not on the internet) but in real life, that are just like this.

I'm not attacking you, personally, in fact youre probably cool guys, and I'd play Wii with you too. But youre just not informed and I do not like it when people make assumptions about things they know nothing about. I'm just defending my demographic and the developers who put in such hard work to appease us.

I agree with Epic on this one because the developers for the Wii don't put in 1/1000th the effort in the engine department as Epic. In fact, nobody does, not even any other 360 or PS3 developer. To put it in perspective, Wii developers can use their old gamecube and ps2 engines, while Epic has spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing the Unreal 3 Engine.

Just to inform you a little about Epic, prior to Gears of War, all of their games have basically been Deathmatch style FPS games that showcase the newest Unreal Engine tech. The games sold pretty well on the PC, but nothing to write home about. Their main source of revenue is actually licensing the Unreal Engine, to other developers whether it be Unreal 1 2 or 3. Essentially, they sell the software development kit that lets them use the engine, and scripting / debugging tools to speed up development by an enormous amount. It allows them to focus on creativity and not the bugs of the engine powering it. They sell the SDK for around $300,000 to start, and then take 3% of overall revenue for the game.

Theyre working on Unreal 4 right now, for the next next gen, and its about a 6 year development time, JUST for the engine. No game will come out of this time. This is why I agree with Epic about being a virus of sorts in teh game industry. It captures a certain demographic, but it is not the one they support and want to please. They have a fanbase and want to keep it by not selling out.

Keep up the good work Epic, hardcore gamers all love you guys. ]]>Apr 22nd 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
While Metroid Prime is no Gears of War graphically, it's still pretty damn nice looking. So nice looking games can be done! ]]>Apr 21st 2008 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/
But then they "go forward, not back". Funny, but the money just happens to be "back there". Oh well, you guys go forward, then, someone else will pick up these fat stacks of cold cash you're ignoring.]]>Apr 21st 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/21/epic-games-prez-compares-wii-to-a-virus/Apr 21st 2008 1:15PM