http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/ Engadget Comments for TG's 22-inch Lluon all-in-one PC heads to Best Buy http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Thomas]]>Apr 28th 2008 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
But, when are all these companies going to realize that it is time to drop the glossy screen away? They only look good, but absolutely annoying when watching anything on them.]]>Apr 28th 2008 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Because Apple invented a bit of plastic with a pc inside with a screen on the front?

Are you talking about the shape? What other shape should it be, round? a star? trapezium?

I dont see how you can make a screen with a built in pc and not have it look at least a little bit like the imac since the shape of the screen will dictate the shape of the computer.

Besides there have been plenty of other pc in monitor computers Gateway One for example and Apple hasnt batted an eyelid.

Posts like these should come with a huge warning "WARNING APPLE FANBOYS INSIDE, ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK"]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
@ carl.finlow: Shut up.

@ ArcticFox: LMAO, imagine a screen that has the shape of a star! You have replied to carl in the most prefect way, there is nothing to add.]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/i was going through cursing faster than a fat guy eats a hot dog]]>Apr 28th 2008 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/i think it's great for those unable to shift or those wanting a classier looking pc, but other than design a computer that is all in one that fits inside the monitor, there is no real comparison to the imac here.

to be blunt, the back looks reall cheap and brittle, the sort of unit thats plastic will creak and twist as you pick it up etc.

nevertheless it is one of the best stabs i've seen at anything close to mr ives' flawless designs.

its not as if apple have some secret ingredient that enables them to just manage it, its basically that they can afford to put all of their resources into perfectionism, because thats their main drive.

lluon aren't perfectionists, there is no passion there at all.

i definately think that the next company that will be doing hardware anywhere near apples level of smile inducing design will be asus.


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Oh stop it please stop it....]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Hard to argue with the look, but there's not enough info to base an opinion on. I dislike the shiny screens as well - fine for the casual user, but awful for media work. Also, no firewire? I guess this is strictly for the casual user. I'm curious about how it handles heat and noise.]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
That having been said, it looks overall like a pretty nice all-in-one for the Windows-loyals, though I would have liked to see a non-glossy screen and a few more USB ports (like, at least four. Yes, I think the iMac has too few as well.)]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
@ carl.finlow: Shut up.

@ ArcticFox: LMAO, imagine a screen that has the shape of a star! You have replied to carl in the most prefect way, there is nothing to add.]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/I'm all for us having all sorts of computers, but what i don't like is blatant design rip offs cashing in on someone else's genius. Those things are copyrighted. You can't just use them for your own product and not expect some form of legal intervention.]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Ever heared of a thing called ergonomics?]]>Apr 28th 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Why so aggressive? i'm stating my point of view calmly and clearly. Why should we listen to you and i should be silent?
This has also got nothing to do with being any kind of fan boy.
It's about blatant design theft.
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Because you have no idea what you're talking about. You typed "I imagine they will have Apple lawyers knocking on their doors any minute now." The only part of that which is remotely accurate is "I imagine". You certainly do.

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Stop being flamebait. You can't 'ripoff' a rectangular monitor design - most if not all computer lcds are now that shape. You stuff a computer into it, it's going to become a monitor with a computer inside, which is what the Imac, Dell XPS One, Gateway One are...it's not copying it's tech. evolution.

The pc is nice but I'd be very worried about tech support. If I'm every buying an all in one it's going to be from a company that has a really nice web page, phone numbers that work perfectly and a very active forum and tech support consisting of people that speak very good english. ]]>Apr 28th 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/The shape of the computer could be alot different, but its not for the same reson the imac is not shaped diffferent, it makes more sence is more effeciant to be the way it is. The color pattern is also something that would accure to someone just right from the break a solid color with another color to border it. There is a chance that someone siad hay!! lets make our computer l;ook just like there mybe couse theres sells or just couse they felt like it, but there is no way to really know. In a way many car makers would be in risk of design theft.
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ok... if you were a smallish company, wanting to design a minimalist and sleek all in one desktop computer, and be honest enough to admit you are actually aware of the already working formulas of this (the imac)
what does your design look like?

and bear in mind that fashion has a lot to do with any new design, apple are often trendsetters in the fact that when the g3 imac came out within a year even basic household appliances like irons etc looked like g3 imacs

the current high end style right now, in homes and offices everywhere is black glass leather and metal, and it was becoming popular before the launch of the iphone (apples first product in this style - prada, bang & olufsen etc anyone?)

its hard for any designer not to take influence with what's hot right now, does anyone nail asus for making a mini ibook?

its clear that this machine looks up to and admires the imac, but you get far more obvious rip offs than this.

its merely a budget cheaper brand fashion desktop thats an all in one, in a contemporary style, that will guaranteed look very dated in 2-3 years time, why? because its flimsy looking, if apple are likely to do anything in the face of this they are most likely just to feel a wee bit sorry for it, but rest assured that immitations is the highest form of flattery.

what this model does have going for it though, is emmbracing what apple are doing and following their lead, confidantly, and i do wish this model luck and hope other companies would try as hard designing technology with some aesthetic ethic involved.

i'm obviously an apple user, thats is basically down to being concious of false economies and wanting to use a design classic that functions perfectly, is physically solid as a rock and will require little f*cking about with to make it run the way i want it to.

a strong pc arguement is that desire and need to f*ck about with their machine, which basically means that this machine is definately for the posers as it will have to be the poor mans imac, and it doesnt look like there is a lot of scope to alter it in anyway, e.g. my mother might by one as she loves my macs but thinks they are too expensive and is scared of osx and the possibility that osx might prevent her from being able to run certain programmes (such as an internet browser!!!! but dont even go there, i am sick of saying i told you so each year when she gets so fed up of repairing her pc and then buys a new model and moans bout it non stop, but thats another story)

bottom line, thinking that apple are going to get cross about this is a ridiculous and predictable idea and deserves all the flaming it gets.

did dell sue apple when they brought out a black macbook?

it needs to be a little closer to the bone to actually infringe on any copyright like that.

basically it would have to be pretty much identical, like these chinese iphone rip offs, or even have a logo that looked a bot like a peach or something on it.

this machine is its own thing.

its like the computer equivelant of anyone of these crappy bands we have kicking about at the moment that are nothing more than their obvious influences, popular and enjoyable al the same but...ach...

i'm interested to see the pricing of it anyway


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But yeah, designers are of course influenced by one another, which is usually ok, as long as it isn't copying. This thing is a bit borderline perhaps, but still ok I'd say. And it looks good.]]>Apr 28th 2008 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
i think it was about 1997 coloured plastics were really "in", i remember a lot of frosted coloured plastic being refered to as "jelly"
i bought a lime green wine rack in 1997 in a designer boutique and it was in keeping with a lot of other products and the forthcoming imac, but it was the only one that became a cultural icon.

type imac into ebay and you still get coloured plastic bird cages etc showing up.

its really just about who does it best at the end of the day.]]>Apr 28th 2008 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Why?

I bought an iMac.

"How can you blame yourself?", you may be asking.

Because if it weren't for me buying my iMac, these companies wouldn't realize that all-in-ones are what a lot of people want... the only problem is that the all-in-ones that people want run OS X and have Apples on the front ;)]]>Apr 28th 2008 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
Really? I didn't know you spoke for all consumers. Personally, I could care less if it's Windows, OS X, or even Linux. Just as long as it worked well. I find Windows to work as well as OS X if the hardware is just as good.

Amazing isn't it? If consumers just go for shiny these days, then that's kinda sad.]]>Apr 28th 2008 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
If they live up to their estimates, it's all for the good and if they fail, that tells the consumer something they should know too.

Again, if this thing is $900 with a 3 GHz CPU (and supporting architecture,) I'm interested. If it's $1500, I'd rather pay -- what is becoming an ever diminishing price premium -- to go with Apple (or more realistically advise friends in this "computer as a home appliance" category) and run Parallels if they have to have XP for whatever reason.

Right now, anyone asking me about these all-in-one things, I recommend a laptop and a $300 external display. Just get a one year old Mac lappy of whatever price point suits you, make sure it has Apple Care and Bob's your auntie's live-in lover with a non-marital agreement. : )]]>Apr 29th 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/May 4th 2008 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/
But when it comes to a PC maker copying a successful idea done by Apple, it's wrong?

I hate double standards.]]>Apr 28th 2008 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/tgs-22-inch-lluon-all-in-one-heads-to-best-buy/Apr 28th 2008 7:50PM