http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/ Engadget Comments for AMD says post-Phenom CPUs will be "completely different," 100 laptops to launch with Puma http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
I really like to see AMD to stay in the CPU game, they have done a lot for the consumers.

Keep it up!]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
nah they are just gonna paste a different sticker on it.]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Just like the meek.

Actually the fact that they can keep up with Intel at all is impressive. They have less cache and last gen manufacturing and they still hold their own. Intel is mostly beating them with Fab's. 45nm allows for more cache and higher clock speeds while using less power. The basic AMD design is very old now. It's still going to be 6 months before Intel adopts AMD's integrated memory controller design from 6 years ago.]]>Apr 29th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Because 65nm Core 2's don't beat the Phenoms clock-for-clock, and they can't ramp em up to hire frequencies. Oh wait...]]>Apr 29th 2008 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 30th 2008 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Cheetah comes out before Puma, then it goes Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard.]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/It's boring having intel being the only one to provide great CPU's, i know AMD's Phenom is great but still a bit so-so compared to intel's Core 2 Quads :)

It'll be interesting to see where they go with this :D

C'mon AMD woop woop!]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
then the empire struck back

Hopefully this will be return of the Jedi]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
In the beginning Intel invented the IC and all was good in the world. Then when they wanted to sell their chips to IBM, they required a second source supplier who was later revealed as the Phantom Menace. As Intel released new chips, it found that it was faced with an Attack of the Clones as AMD also released 286, 386, & 486 microprocessors. Then Intel struck on an idea that gave them A New Hope and released the Pentium line of processors. For whatever reason (debate all you wish) AMD gets the upper as it's Empire Strikes Back. So any Return of the Jedi would have to be the Core microprocessor returning from it's early roots as the Pentium Pro to revolutionize computing.

I'm pretty sure that's how it went down.]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
Perhaps hes referring to the invention of the modern processors. However, IC's were first created by a scientist at Texas Instruments]]>May 29th 2008 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=436

It's called Fusion people and was announced and discussed right after the AMD/ATI merger.]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Not very ground breaking...unless there was an earthquake when you mentioned it.
But, one would hope there is something more to it. Maybe a Phyx, GPU, and CPU integrated board? Since we're in Fantasy land I might as well "shoot the moon"]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/May 29th 2008 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
Right guys. Right.]]>Apr 29th 2008 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
However, all the juvenile comments and posturing is getting a little tiring on these comment posts... Seriously, if you want to act like aspergered out flame warriors, at least take a couple of business classes.

Most of the market is in the middle. The vast majority of the market is in the middle. High end workstations and gaming pc's make up less than 1% of the processor market. Both companies having higher end processors is a pure r&d move. They need the powerful models to be able to scale them down and make them fit the mid range as the technology improves.

We've been goin 45nm Intel lately largely due to power drain concerns, but I can see AMD coming back and giving some good competition. I think that a large amount of their current problems may well be exacerbated when Intel gets rid of the antiquated FSB in the next gen processors, but everything really depends.

So, to sum up, posts like 'AMD is done for' and 'Intel are monopolizts!!' (intentional misspelling) don't add anything to the conversation. Go home and take your meds. ]]>Apr 29th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/"So, to sum up, posts like 'AMD is done for' and 'Intel are monopolizts!!' (intentional misspelling) don't add anything to the conversation. Go home and take your meds."
Urnamma is pretty much dead on correct, and idiots like you just prove him right.]]>Apr 29th 2008 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
"(intentional misspelling)"

Intentional misspellings kind of lose their flair when you point them out.]]>Apr 30th 2008 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
According to most enthusiast-related posts here, the p4 should have been the death of Intel because it was really an underperformer for too many years. And we all know only enthusiasts and benchmark nerds buy computers and make decisions for big companies. They're also the OEMs/ODMs who understand the customer wants nothing but the highest-performance bundled with 512MB ram and Vista, and they are certainly these same OEMs who build millions of laptops and PCs that reach mum & dad in big box stores.

"no nooo, you gotta get da wun dat clocks da highest..." is forefront in the minds of management and average customers alike.

Nobody has any other priorities than looking at raw performance. Not performance per dollar. Not case design. Not after-sales service. Not overall system performance. Just raw performance of the CPU in their computer. After all, it is the be-all and end-all of computer purchases.

AMD is clearly on its death bed for 'trailing' Intel (again).]]>Apr 30th 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/That aside, I know I'll still be interested to see how it turns out.]]>Apr 29th 2008 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
Maybe they are thinking its time to focus on customer usability/looks rather than horsepower?

After all, things like the Eee are being eaten up and they are so last-last-last generation when it comes to speed.]]>Apr 29th 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 29th 2008 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
AMD's presence in the mobile arena is acknowledged, but not appreciated. The Puma/Turion Ultra/whatever cack marketing name they come up with is so far behind Penryn, even in power/efficiency, it's not even funny. Come back when you're all grown up, kid.]]>Apr 30th 2008 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
AMD schooled Intel, and the reason this is happening now is that Intel was a better student than we all thought.]]>May 1st 2008 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 30th 2008 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/May 1st 2008 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Apr 30th 2008 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/AMP FTW]]>May 1st 2008 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/May 1st 2008 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/Cause Vista is a graphics hog, and you can get that user experience score up by concentrating on graphics more. Wow I can't believe I just wasted 15 minutes reading all this, but anyway. How many people care how fast their machine is, if Vista says, "You're Vista Experience Score is 8.0" The average user would be ecstatic no matter what hardware was behind it.
I really hope AMD survives, cause I can't afford a monopolized CPU market when I'm spending all my money on gas.]]>May 8th 2008 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/amd-says-post-phenom-cpus-will-be-completely-different-100-la/
and remember the regular user doesn't care if he has a PUMA or Penryn or a little mermaid inside their pcs all they care is that it works great to their understanding and a technologically-impaired will probably measure this using the vista rating or just by coolness let's face it...PUMA...Penryn...PUMA is way cooler xD

(oh and for the one above talking about a shoe...dude a puma is a cat..a huge cat there are some around here they are so coooooooooool!!! xD)]]>May 29th 2008 7:31PM