http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
And they said things are always better the second time around.]]>May 5th 2008 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
Start spreading it on torrent sites. Put up popular movies to share, and make sure all you details/plans in the same folder. After one quick weekend you spread it to thousands of people, who will continue spreading it. Then you become irrelevant as your death won't mean the end of the knowledge you contain. THINK SMART.]]>May 6th 2008 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
You people sound like idiots screaming and whining about impossibilities. Go back 50 years and tell them what you KNOW to be possible with nano-technology, and they would laugh your ass into a mental institute. In 100 years, people will be taking things for granted that you couldn't even dream could ever exist. Again, you all sound like morons.]]>May 6th 2008 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
He also insults on of my favorite scientists that happens to share your name, so he's doubly lame. ]]>May 6th 2008 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/Reader is right, the vibration of atoms is commonly known as thermal energy or as Internal Energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energy)

Furthermore, the vibration of atoms and molecules is NOT unlimited, so you would not be able "drew unlimited energy from the constant motion of atoms present in the surrounding environment". There would be a limit to it.

A good example of the type of technology you are theorizing about is called a steam engine. It takes heat from the surrounding area (especially the burner), and uses that thermal energy (caused by the movement of atoms) to make water evaporate (this occurs because of the increased speed of the vibration of the water molecules). This in turn, causes pressure which can then be converted into kinetic energy by a turbine of some sort, or by pistons.

Congratulations on inventing a steam engine! You've only figured it out 300+ years after Thomas Savery.

When you "harvest" energy from the movement of atoms, you know what that's called? Cooling it off. There is a limit to how cold things can get. It's called absolute zero. It is the point at which all molecular movement theoretically stops. Because there is a limit to how cold something can get, there's a limit to how much thermal energy you can take out of it. And because there's a limit to how much thermal energy you can take out of it, it is not an eternal, unlimited supply of energy.

Please go take a physics course so you can learn about thermodynamics. Then we wouldn't have to hear you spewing utter bullsh!t out of your ass about the "unlimited energy from the constant motion of atoms" before calling us morons for knowing the slightest thing about rudimentary physics.]]>May 6th 2008 5:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
...Or 2000 years after Hero. (The FIRST steam turbine, even if it was only a toy)]]>May 6th 2008 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 8th 2008 7:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
I read through the site, it is a bit of maddness on the net, as with all perpetual motion machines they forgo the amount of friction withing the "machine" that causes the whole perpetual idea to go out the window. ]]>May 5th 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
until the robots steal his invention and enslave us all. Tin-foil hats for everyone!]]>May 6th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
Don't be that guy. Free energy is impossible. Deal with it.]]>May 5th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
What do you have against free energy anyways? You also turn down free beer? Free love?

Sheesh.]]>May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
Having said that, anyone that believes in a machine the generates power by violating the laws of thermodynamics is completely bat-shit crazy.]]>May 5th 2008 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
An interesting proposition (if not crazy)....let's see what happens.]]>May 6th 2008 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
You're mostly right but we can turn matter into energy. In fact, that's how nuclear fusion/fission works. The energy from those reactions comes from the mass gap created when we split large atoms or combine small ones and is exactly defined by E= (mass difference) * c^2. However, even though that energy is enormous, it's still finite and not a true "free energy" device (aka a perpetual motion machine). All perpetual motion machines, by definition, violate the laws of thermodynamics which has proven to be impossible so far.

But hey, you never know, maybe string theory is right and we'll be able to tap into the energy of one of the other 7 dimensions.]]>May 6th 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
amazing what people do for attention.]]>May 5th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
At least any such device is more likely to exist than a god.]]>May 5th 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
Their may be future innovations that meet the properties of you classify as "free energy" but within the scope of known science. It may simply be sparked by the discover of a new field of science. ]]>May 6th 2008 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
And on the 'you can't prove there's no god' deal... Of course you can't, because you can't prove there is one in the first place. There's nothing to prove. It's all faith at that point.

Both the device and god are in the same league, since they would require discovering a new dimension/force that is currently impossible to detect and seemingly has no effect on anything around us. Maybe someday, but breaking the laws of thermodynamics will forever be impossible. That's not the same as saying 'free energy' is forever impossible, though.
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Just because we can only detect (x) amount of dimensions doesn't mean there aren't others out there.

The way I see it, I choose to believe in God because I loose nothing by believing in him (technically speaking I'm playing it safe). You on the other hand might get back handed if he feels you disrespected.]]>May 6th 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/You lost all credibility while citing Ophra]]>May 6th 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 6th 2008 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/]]>May 5th 2008 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/May 5th 2008 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
Would it appeal to no-one else's sense of humour or irony if he actually managed to make a free energy machine?]]>May 5th 2008 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/archer-quinn-documenting-his-free-energy-project-descent-into-m/
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