http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/ Engadget Comments for PS3 has outsold Xbox 360 in Europe since October http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I don't really care that much about the whole console war (I'm a Mac Pro/Boot Camp/Crossover Games gamer), but the fact remains that Microsoft has lost 6 billion on the Xbox so far. When people talk about Microsoft making a profit on the Xbox, they're speaking in terms of one fiscal quarter, which is three months.

So Microsoft really has to make a profit in excess of 6 billion before they really turn a profit on the thing. I must admit, the Xbox has a great selection of games and a good online presence, but what really kills the attraction for me is their problems with the RROD and the fact that you can get ports of most of their exclusive games on PC.

So those are the facts of the situation and it doesn't look like it's going to get better for Microsoft from here on out. It also doesn't help that the PS3 has Blu-Ray and Metal Gear Solid 4.

Pimps forever!]]>May 7th 2008 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Most people have already has a 360, that's why. :)

But still, (PS2, PS3) > (Xbox, 360) in Europe.

Grats to Sony nonetheless.]]>May 7th 2008 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
The xbox 360 had a year head start. Hence the market would be more saturated with people who wanted one already owning one. Therefore sales would expect to slow down.]]>May 7th 2008 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
dont get me wrong , im going to rebuy a 360 becos the ps3 online sucks balls, but the ps3 is ascending.]]>May 7th 2008 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I agree that the market is no where near saturated. When the PS3 and 360 reach PS2 numbers, then you may have an arguement but right now, it's nowhere close. Please note that PS2 sold 127 Million units as of Nov. 2007.

When you can say that 98% of households have either a 360 or a PS3 (like DVD players), then you can say it's saturated.]]>May 7th 2008 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/If you follow through the link and read the actual article you'll realise that what they've said is:

"We have sold more PlayStation 3s throughout Europe than Xbox 360 even though they launched 16 months before us."

They didn't just outsell the 360 for a month/year. They've outsold he total number of 360s.]]>May 7th 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Mind you, I don't have an Xbox 360, so these are just assumptions.]]>May 7th 2008 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
The dash was updated in this manner about two years back. When the 360 originally launched its true, the media integration wasn't complete (video was in mce only). That was partly due to the state of development of MCE and changes made to support Vista since (which are now compat with WMP on XP too).
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I still prefer the interface for the PS3 plus as a media centre it's much quiter. I hope sony sort out the Divx and mp4 problem i have soon.]]>May 7th 2008 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
You can see the results of consolidated European retail sales in this handy chart:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Europe&cons2=PS3®2=Europe&cons3=X360®3=Europe&start=39208&end=39572&weekly=1

Interestingly the UK is more like the US than the European mainland, in that 360 continues to outsell PS3:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=UK&cons2=PS3®2=UK&cons3=X360®3=UK&start=39208&end=39572&weekly=1

Moreover, in the USA the Wii hasn't yet overtaken the 360:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=America&cons2=PS3®2=America&cons3=X360®3=America&start=39208&end=39572&weekly=1]]>May 7th 2008 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
If Sony got togeher and made the online play better a lot more would be sold. Hell, I still want to see a channel for all game consoles. I think online play would be a lot more competitive that way.]]>May 7th 2008 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
There's not really a lack of consoles anymore. My buddy is a Gamestop store manager, and up until about 1-2 months ago, everyone was calling him daily looking for consoles. Now, they finally have stock...and they're not moving; same goes for other Gamestops in the D.C./Northern VA area.]]>May 7th 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Michael]]>May 7th 2008 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
360 for games (Wii as well)
PS3 for movies
]]>May 7th 2008 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Some are even exclusive!]]>May 7th 2008 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I along with my two brothers that have PS3s and my parents (that I bought them) only use them for games. Mind you, my parents mainly play the PSN games like Pixeljunk Monsters, Flow and my Dad loves Pain. Though, I think my parents might have a Blu-Ray movie or two now. I haven't been home since Christmas.

So there, that's one more than you! Isn't it fun spouting circumstantial evidence?]]>May 7th 2008 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Assuming that you use the PS3 for games, you would be connected to the Playstation Network for console and games updates. Not completely accurate as I'm connect to the PSN, but as previously stated don't used the PS3 for games.

As of January 2008 there were only 2.5 million people connected to the Playstation Network, in the same time period Sony had sold 3.25 million PS3 units. That leaves 750,000 people who had one and weren't on the network (aka DVD players given the criteria above). US Numbers.

PSN Subscribership:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17412

Sony Sales:
http://kotaku.com/346301/whos-winning-the-console-war-in-the-us]]>May 7th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Using PSN numbers to determine gaming usage is flawed.]]>May 7th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I waited about 4 months after getting my PS3 to sign up for PSN. Why? Because it was largely unnecessary to me at the time. Oblivion GoY, Ratchet and Clank, Assassin's Creed, and Uncharted were all taking up plenty of my time. Not to mention several Blu-Ray movies.

After working my way through most of those, THEN I signed up (post Jan 2008) and promptly downloaded PixelJunk Monsters and Super StardustHD.

Oh, and you don't need a PSN account to download PS3 OS software updates.]]>May 7th 2008 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
*Sony have taken the liberty of renaming the Earth, "Sony," because Sony are so great.]]>May 7th 2008 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I'll be buying one (maybe) for MGS4/GT5 and Blu-Ray. Just not sure the price justifies the product still/I'm a poor student.

As for the sales? Of course they're going to outsell the 360 - its been out longer and total cumulative sales beat the PS3 (19m 360 to 13m PS3).
Besides, I'm always weary of BBC online articles. By law, on the TV, they have be unbiased and independant - that does not apply to their internet service. And the article completely leaves out the 360 side of the story here.]]>May 7th 2008 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
You mean the Media Center application on the 360 dashboard?... yeah, and? What's your point?

If all you want to do is watch MPG, WMV, DivX, view photos or stream music... then NO, you don't have to start the MC application. It all streams directly to the 360.

Media Center I only use for DVR'd television that was recorded using MC. And even then, I could just move the files to a shared folder and stream them without MC.

All of it is very simple and very uncomplicated, so it's not like I'm doing anything that the average Joe couldn't figure out.]]>May 7th 2008 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
iPhone.

]]>May 7th 2008 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
They're practically nonexistent...]]>May 7th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Apple has the shine. In fact, it's dazzling. 3G iPhone FTW.]]>May 7th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
What a tool you are. I barely could understand what you were saying, what with you mumbling with Steve Job's job in your mouth and all.]]>May 7th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Ah yes, good old Apple :|

]]>May 7th 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
Microsoft Vista has outsold Windows 3.1 in the last 6 months!

Wait... even more news...

The Hyundai Sonata has outsold the Geo Storm, 10 straight years in a row!

Hold onto your hats for this one...
LCD HDtv's have outsold Analog television in the last year in both Europe and Africa! Maybe even the U.S.!

Bleh. I know Sony is on an upswing and more power to them, but the hyperbole is just plain dumb.]]>May 7th 2008 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
You know it's true.....how many of you have PS2s with mod chips?!?!
I keep checking Pacific Mall to find out if someone has started offering a mod yet or not.]]>May 7th 2008 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
that was not my intent. I am a 360 fanboy, and it's far from being the Geo Storm of the gaming world. My bad!]]>May 7th 2008 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I own both (all three if you include the Wii) and I'd give up my PS3 in a heartbeat before I gave up the other two. As a few have said already, my PS3 is just a glorified Blu-ray player.]]>May 7th 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
congrats sony, well done.]]>May 7th 2008 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/May 7th 2008 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
"We have sold more PlayStation 3s throughout Europe than Xbox 360 even though they launched 16 months before us."

This is for total sales since each consoles launch. He is refering to the fact that the PS3 has sold over 5 million units in the EU wheres the 360 is yet to break 5 million.

So going on about "oh of course it has, the 360 has been out years before so everyone has it and thats the reason sales have slowed" is irrelevant unless you were specifically refering to David Reeves' comment about them selling more on a month to month basis since October.

The only region where the 360 does best is the USA with regards to total sales and sales per month.]]>May 7th 2008 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
PS3 outsold 360 in numbers. Sony has sold more ps3 than MS Xbox 360. Is not only in a month by month basis. Many of you who say "I use my ps3 for blu ray" may be lying. Werent you the same ones that said "Digital Download is the way to go"?

You just dont want to admit, PS3 is getting away of 360. Did you know that GTA IV has a better attachment radio in PS3?

]]>May 7th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/07/ps3-has-outsold-xbox-360-in-europe-since-october/
I pretty much play Hot Shots and watch Blu-Ray on PS3.]]>May 8th 2008 10:12AM