http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/ Engadget Comments for E-Fuel's Micro Fueler creates Ethanol from sugar in your backyard http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/]]>May 9th 2008 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
Though, apparently an ethanol fuel licence is cheaper and less regulated than a beverage licence.]]>May 9th 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
People who advocate using food for fuel, be they hippies or greedy corporate bastards, should all be publicly shot.]]>May 9th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
Don't drive-up the cost of my sugar-filled Coke by attacking sugar for fuel!]]>May 9th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
E-fuel is NOT the answer for a new energy system because it has the same limitations as oil: It has a finite supply. While it can be regrown each year we only have so much farmland. Our farmland will not grow along with our demand for more energy like other types will. Solar and wind can both be made more efficient at capturing and transforming the limitless supply of energy into usable energy for us.]]>May 9th 2008 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
"agree, the world needs to first be able to feed EVERYONE before rich countries begin using food for fuel instead of feeding less fortunate individuals."

Um.... how is the food going to get from the rich countries to the poor ones? Magic? Teleportation? Most actual analysts as opposed to bloggers believe current food issues are more related to high fuel costs and political issues than lack of arable land. And current land could be much more efficiently used if we could get fertilizer, seeds, and know-how to poorer countries. And all that takes fuel. I'm pretty tired of this "ethanol is food directly out of someone's mouth" talk. It's like saying "How dare someone who only has $10 for food waste money on a bus pass!' they should walk to the convenience store for $5 beef jerky instead of taking the bus to the supermarket? And yes, locally grown food, organic farming, etc, etc... The simple fact is, things aren't as simple as "food or fuel" and we shouldn't be flogging people for trying to innovate in areas that don't meet your personal holy grail of energy production (oh, and solar and wind aren't perfect. Fusion is nice, but let's actually see it). How about we keep trying things and see what works?

That said, this thing is probably not going to work. I mean, really.]]>May 9th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/]]>May 10th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
then there is the issue of dead soldiers securing our oil, which god put under their sand. but im a veteran, and i know nobody gives a shit about them.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
Ethanol has the potential to corrode the tubes inside cars that are not designed for it - thats why you can't use E85 with older cars - especially those not built with Flex technology. E100 will eat away at your fluid hoses and DESTROY your engine.


Someone who posts after me can list all the available E100 vehicles.]]>May 9th 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
If that is true that is quiet an interesting fact]]>May 9th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
"Most automobiles in Brazil run either on alcohol (E100) or on gasohol (E25) since the governement made mandatory the use of 24% ethanol in the blend sold in the entire country. Since 2003, dual-fuel ("Flex-Fuel") or full flex-fuel vehicles that run on any proportion of ethanol and gasoline have been gaining popularity, reaching 5 million new cars and light commercial vehicles by March 2008"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil]]>May 9th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/]]>May 9th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
Doesn't that defeat the clean image of a backyard fueling station? If I'm spending $10k on a fuel producing system, and another several grand on sugar ($40/gallon of ethanol), I want fuel I can use!]]>May 9th 2008 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
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You must be stupid, high, or all of the above.

If I brought up the fact that E85 is different from E100, doesn't it stand to reason that I already know what Ethanol is and what the difference is?

For as long as you see me on Engadget, keep your mouth out my comments because your replies are STUPID and you want to sound smart, but you really aren't.

Besides, when you work in a sweatshop, you aren't supposed to use the computer there to post blogs.]]>May 9th 2008 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
WHAT WE NEED IS FUSION POWER.

If we put enough research and Development into Fusion, we could come up with a Fusion solution. Problem is, the OIL COMPANIES do their best to retard Fusion R&D because it would produce CHEAPER energy, low radioactive waste (which means storage facilities would lose money) and Fusion would ultimately be the perfect replacement for the oil infrastructures.

Sure it would cost a Trillion dollars (or possibly 3) but it would ramaticaly improve the quality of life of the entire world.

STOP BEING GREEDY BIG OIL.]]>May 9th 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/?immenent doom).]]>May 9th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/?immenent doom).]]>May 9th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/?immenent doom).]]>May 9th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/cfutures.html

This whole ethanol craze is retarded. If you have 3rd grade math skills, it's easy to count the number of acres of corn needed to make enough ethanol to practically fuel the country, and realize that number is larger than the US. TEN GALLONS OF SUGAR??? And, let's not forget what it's doing to the deterioration of topsoil and contamination of freshwater supplies. ]]>May 9th 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/Can we use the ethanol for other purposes?]]>May 9th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
this really is some good stuff.]]>May 9th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
So cost per gallon would be about $3.84 not includding the cost of water and yeast.

It's cheeper to just buy the gas. For $10K you could get this device or at $4 a gallon you could by 2500 gallons of gas. Depending on your mileage and driving habits that could be enough gas for 3+ years.]]>May 9th 2008 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/
1 gallon of ethanol = 10 gallons of sugar @ $.30/lb = $40/gallon

So after paying $10k for the machine, enjoy paying $40 per gallon (excluding electricity, yeast, and maintenance)!]]>May 9th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/May 9th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/]]>May 9th 2008 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/One for the scrap-heap!]]>May 9th 2008 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/09/e-fuels-micro-fueler-creates-ethanol-from-sugar-in-your-backyar/Imagine if they added 10% water to each gallon of milk but charged you the same.
Ethanol blend gas for everyone that doesn't have a truly compatible car is a complete scam. You also better empty your tank before each fill up so you don't build up alcohol in your tank. A year from now is going to be a great time to be a mechanic or a car dealer.]]>May 9th 2008 11:00AM