http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
reminded me of the 'icon' computers I had back in public school int he 80's.

xp is just stupid. for what this thing is.

what, does it come preloaded with fuckign pinball?

the xo software was cool not for the OS, but what was loaded ON IT.]]>May 15th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
I hope that WinXP has modified UI to compensate for the ~200 dpi display. This was a killer issue when using Xfce. ]]>May 15th 2008 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
Wasn't sp1 suppose to fix crap like this?..and whats with every vista service need to connect to the internets?]]>May 16th 2008 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 16th 2008 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....]]>May 15th 2008 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
DO NOT WANT]]>May 15th 2008 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/They will see first hand a 'WINDOWS CRASH ERROR"
]]>May 16th 2008 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
I just don't think Windows is necessary for something like this - it's for kids to learn to use computers, to do basic word-processing and "educational" games, and maybe a little scripting - it doesn't need XP, nor are there any advantages to having XP besides Microsoft getting them while they're young. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.]]>May 15th 2008 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/where the heck did you get that idea?]]>May 15th 2008 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
It is sad how anything that a big company like MS does is portrayed as brainwashing or evil. Frankly, I can't think of anything better than for lots of people in developing countries to be using whatever OS most of us, use.... WINDOWS! Why do they have to have some crippled version OS to "learn off" rather than the full thing? Heck maybe a lot of kids will "just being learning off these" like you say, but then what? Maybe some of them want to go further, why should they be limited like that? I know the hardware itself is limited, but why constraint it even further???

You could very well say the same thing with OS X, since that is a very capable platform that many people use. I don't really care who is doing it, but when you decide that just because it is MS taking the initiative to help equalize global divisions (even if they are expanding their future base off of this) other people should have less than you are just a jerk.]]>May 15th 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
As much as I personally prefer Windows, OS X is better for this kind of thing.]]>May 16th 2008 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/Also, I hope you realize that Steve wasn't doing that from the bottom of his heart either. He was doing it to promote and expand OS X to get a larger install base and head start in developing countries.

And exactly how is OS X better? If you need a $1000 computer to run it at the bare minimum, how the heck was that going to work for these?
Also, Apple will never put OS X on anything that wasn't made by apple.]]>May 16th 2008 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
And the reason I'm saying it's better than XP for this type of thing is because its easier to use for people who aren't "power users" than XP. And it's not like they're going to be adding third-party apps and games in the developing world.

http://education.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1027485%3ABlogPost%3A32732
"Interestingly, Steve Jobs had offered Mac OS X free of charge for use in the OLPC program but the offer was declined."

That's the most... reputable source I can find, but it was certainly on an article on Engadget.

In pretty much every article about the OLPC and Windows on Engadget someone mentions it]]>May 16th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
Well considering a version of osx runs on the iPhone, you definitely do NOT need a 1000 dollar computer to run it.

And if it does run on the iPhone, it seems well suited for the olpc.

]]>May 16th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
In short, this is just Microsoft sticking their grubby fingers into everything yet again. They know that Linux is better for this task, and that's exactly why they've had to push so hard to get XP onto the OLPC. ]]>May 15th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/1. When these kids visit civilization, it won't be run on Linux/Sugar
2. Think WinXP is tough, try teaching a kid CLI and YUMing. Now multiply that teaching by 100 kids.
3. Before I put my XO away, the WiFi was lame (no good WAP support) and mesh was worthless in urbia.
4. There are ooodles more apps and games for WinXP than Linux/Sugar.]]>May 15th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
If you had learnt from the start to be "multi-talented" with respect to entering commands into a computer (via keyboard, mouse, GUI or commandline) then it would have been a non-issue.

In short, you don't know how to use a command line, and that's fair enough. But what you're assuming is that using the command line is hard. It isn't, it's just different. An alternative.]]>May 16th 2008 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
First off, these are sold to developing countries like Brazil and Libya, not the Congo. These countries (if youve ever traveled outside the US, you might know this) have food and water, but see an attractive opportunity here to do something novel with their educational system.

Personally I welcome windows to the olpc. These kids dont need to be put into a tech ghetto with linux and the administrators of these education programs should make all configuration decisions. They shouldnt feel threatened by either the OSS or Redmond crowd. They should pick the best tool for the job. Of course the OS holy warriors cant stand choice.]]>May 15th 2008 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/Greed is the CAUSE...
Advertising is the EFFECT...
Open Source is the ANSWER... Amen.]]>May 15th 2008 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/Competition is the CAUSE...
Value is the EFFECT...
STFU is the ANSWER... Amen.

Now quit spamming]]>May 15th 2008 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/Yes, just see what competition did to Vista.
That's one hell of an OS!


Or was that OS of hell? Meh]]>May 15th 2008 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/too hard to explain. if you put the 2 versions next to each other you'd know right away. having played with one at work.
it's not for you or me, and you have to kep that in mind.]]>May 15th 2008 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/What do you mean XP doesn't come with useful software? Heck and if you don't find it useful, download any of the ubermillions of apps and games for it. Granted, the XO comes with a few apps that are kinda cool, but some aren't ready for primetime. The browser sucks and doesn't even have flash. Full touchpad is disabled for most everything. No touch click. WAP doesn't even work right.

For those equating MS to greed, wake up. MS is selling. NickNeg is buying. If you had a widget to sell would you really NOT sell it to benefit kids? MS is dang near GIVING XP away so OLPC has a choice for their customers. Choice always benefits the consumer. I'd also love to see OSx or even full Ubuntu on my XO. ]]>May 15th 2008 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
It's safe to assume that this is an issue simply because (and i know you remember) this was an issue six years ago with six years old (or even more) hardware.

Linux was the alternative because not only there are tons of apps for Linux that work quite well with even older or more limited hardware, but because, given the nature of the project, there could have been tons more.

Affordable Software != Free Software]]>May 17th 2008 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/May 15th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/anger leads you to going back to Windows...
Windows...LEADS TO SUFFERING!!]]>May 15th 2008 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/15/olpc-xo-officially-gets-windows-xp-children-of-the-world-to-be/
Just my .02 cents. ]]>May 15th 2008 10:12PM