http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/ Engadget Comments for Video: Willcom's D4 Vista MID previewed http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 5:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
I don't want to see the start menu, my computer, my documents, or finder (I am not biased)

Seriously, I really think that the concept of having a powerful internet communications device in my pocket is really really great. But I hope they don't screw it up by slapping the desktop versions of Vista, XP, Linux, or OS X.]]>May 19th 2008 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
It's like the difference between console and mobile gaming. The games on DS / PSP that are success are those that are made for the mobile gaming experience, not simple ports from the console games they once were.

The OS on MIDs needs to be the same. Although OS2008 (on Nokia's Internet Tablet) drives me crazy sometimes, I know its better than Vista simply because of how it's been geared to work on the go (which is how I use an Internet tablet).

]]>May 19th 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/You won't see a start menu, my documents or my computer - you'll see a windows menu, documents and computer :P.]]>May 19th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/In order for these to be easy to use, they need to be based around a touchscreen interface. Otherwise, How would you navigate a mouse cursor around the screen?

Just like with smartphones, the hardware is finally available to make a great experience in a small device --- no complaints there. The *real* challenge is software. They need to make an entirely new OS platform for these MIDS. It needs to be a universal, mobile-optimized lightweight implementation of Linux. Maybe Google will help these guys out and make an appropriate interface for Android to put on these devices.

I can guarantee that if they don't figure it out and keep trying to sell these with ANY version of Windows on them, they are going to get killed in the market. All it will take is a new multi-touch device from Apple that will blow away any MID attempting to run Vista. And I'm sure Google will be working to get Android-based hardware out there too.

]]>May 20th 2008 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 5:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/There's just no other reason.]]>May 19th 2008 5:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
Signed,

A Vista and XP user. (For a change)]]>May 19th 2008 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
All the nay sayers just keep jumping on a rotting bandwagon. I run both XP and Vista across 5 machines ranging from 4 year old hardware to modern. Only the older hardware shows any difference between the two. With modern components they move at nearly the same speed with Vista doing many things actually faster. Plus I love Vista's look. Before it came out I had Mac envy. That vanished the first time I loaded it.

Back to this post, I think the Vista on MID would be very cool for the Media Player and especially Windows Media Center. WMC on Vista is fantastic.]]>May 19th 2008 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/




*meaning there's nothing bulging from your pocket for those who couldn't get the joke*]]>May 19th 2008 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
Even if you were just happy to see someone who the hell keeps their dick in their pocket?]]>May 19th 2008 6:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
APPLE! We need you here!]]>May 19th 2008 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/29/oqo-hacked-to-run-leopard-now-worlds-smallest-mac/
jk onthe fanboy part :^)]]>May 19th 2008 6:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
That doesn't count, though.]]>May 19th 2008 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/If this is any indication how vista will perform on the atom platform, i'd suggest revoking any vista capable certifications for this and future machines.

It would be interesting to see this thing with a decent OS though, anything other than vista would probably scream. Otherwise this thing is a stillborn.]]>May 19th 2008 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
And the only reason that it's running vista is cause vista is more stylish and matches with the overall design of the device. XP on that with blue everywhere will look plain ugly.]]>May 19th 2008 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

Also, any straight man would take "ugly" XP over performance like what we just saw.]]>May 19th 2008 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
What's that? It's not supported anymore? New accessories won't run on it? New software won't run in it? Well, that just $^%&; I'm going to Mac or Linux! %(

Actually, I miss the Windows CE H/PC platform. Basically what you see here - a full Windows interface (yea, a little more limited), but with instant on/off. If they modify Vista for UMPCs to support instant on/off, I'd like it. Or they could modify Windows Mobile 7 for UMPC use. Typical battery life of 2-6 hours on these does not excite me. I miss my H/PC with 16 hours of life. It was great for taking class/meeting notes. (And $400 retail was also nice.)

They should be able to make a Windows Mobile based unit that gets 24-36 hours of battery life, with newer battery technology, with built-in 3G and WiFi, but all the ones I've seen either suck batteries or just don't include a good one. And it should sell for $199 or less, due to drops in tech prices over the last 10 years.]]>May 19th 2008 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/My wibrain b1h with xp literally fly compare with this atom MID.
Vista in small devices sucks. Sorry for my very poor english but vista is terrible for small devices, xp is better.]]>May 19th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
Please make one that'll support a standard ATT SIM, and have a built in phone.

I'm all about convergence.]]>May 19th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/May 19th 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/Jul 8th 2008 7:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/Jul 8th 2008 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/Aug 4th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/video-willcoms-d4-vista-mid-previewed/
I think it is the best UMPC so far! Hopefully more companies will copy and build upon this great design. Yes I loved the HPC Windows CE too but for me I would rather have a full windows computer in my pocket as I have to run business applications that you can only run on desktop MS OS. ]]>Aug 4th 2008 2:54PM