http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/ Engadget Comments for RIM allows Indian government to monitor Blackberry network http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Sigh.]]>May 22nd 2008 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/The only real difference is that no MS fan is willing to take a bullet or give a kidney to Billy Gates/Balmer.

]]>May 22nd 2008 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Are Engadget Apple fanboys? I. Really. Don't. Care.

What I am sick of is the endless whining in the comments. Post something funny instead, I would much more appreciate that. And in the spirit of that, I promise this is my last anti-whining comment. Ok?]]>May 22nd 2008 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Love or hate Apple, everybody knows that Steve Jobs has got balls and doesn't let anyone, not even governments, push him or his company around.]]>May 23rd 2008 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
In all seriousness, this is not good. I hope this doesn't spread to other countries.]]>May 22nd 2008 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
which wouldn't work because terrorism transpired well before mobile phones and the internet (IRA- 1970's and 1980's) and it still can happen today without technology.

and, as Ben Franklin said: "He who will sacrifice liberty for temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety"]]>May 22nd 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Except Franklin didn't say it. Not only that, he didn't say what he didn't say. What he said was "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" and he was actually a guy you've never heard of named Richard Jackson. But nice try anyway.

Oh and for 7on, they ought to believe in Jackson though as he was a King's Counsel.]]>May 22nd 2008 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

This is NOTHING new, your FAX, voicecalls etc were monitored even way back in the 90s.

Wake up ...]]>May 22nd 2008 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
1. If you wish your attributions towards our trivial knowledge to hold more respect and credibility, you should not be a prick about it. Having esoteric knowledge doesn't make you smarter or better than anyone else. The principal purpose for any kind of knowledge should be for the betterment of people, rather than put them down in the interest of your own ego.

2. Not to be a grammar nazi, but you should proofread your comments before you post them.

3. Perhaps you are accurate in your conjecture, but Bartlett's Familiar Quotes attributes this quotation to Franklin, so it isn't really pure ignorance that would make some one believe that he said it.

I know that this comment is off-topic and overly righteous, but there is no reason that courteous and accurate writing cannot be extended to the internet.]]>May 23rd 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
it might be complete bull but thats what i came up with.]]>May 22nd 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
A growing middle class that is extremely tech savy is a great explanation of why blackberries would be wanted.

]]>May 22nd 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/through your head.
And if you are going to insult someone, at least do it right. Make the red dot joke. I am Indian and I think it's freaking hilarious. Go to a comedy school or something.]]>May 22nd 2008 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Anywho, I don't even know whether this is a sad state of affairs, or a chest-thumping exercise by the current govt who wants to show a disinterested public that they are indeed taking steps to curb terrorism. So instead of doing the hard task of actually goin on the streets, they use these "behind the desk, white collar" methods as a way to curb terrorism.

Nonsense in my opinion. How many terrorists are actually using RIM phones anyway. Nokia rules in India. Always will!]]>May 22nd 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
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The scene looked very similar to a decade back, but I was a QUITE knocked out by the prices. Seems money flows rather easily ... ]]>May 22nd 2008 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
I can go to a store, literally buy ANY GSM based cellphone I want, and then go to a number of telecom providers and use a prepaid or postpaid service. I personally have 4 friends all of whom have Blackberrys. Spending 300$ for JUST a cellphone may seem exorbitant to you Americans, but in India, Rs.12,000 (The equivalent of 300$) is actually NOT expensive- it's expected.

You can buy a cellphone WITHOUT a plan tied in for as low as Rs.1600 (40$) to as high as Rs.30,000 (750$). Heck, the Indian middle class is LARGER than the entire population of the United States.]]>May 23rd 2008 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
How would I go about exporting PBR? Hmmm... may have to Release the Beast on India, too!]]>May 23rd 2008 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 23rd 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/ppl in india get paid rupees
and no they dont make 3 "pebbles" in a year
and mr. smary pants
u may b surprised to find out that mostly all of the companies in the USA (surprise surprise) are operated from india
and most likely more ppl in india own a black berry than america
and no i am from india i am livening in america and also own a blackberry
and did u know that there is a machine in america that also spies on ppl's fone calls and stuff
wow
i learned that in 8th grade]]>May 24th 2008 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
iPhone FTW!

perhaps people in those types of places should shop having children? Too many people are being born today... that was there will be no population to contol!]]>May 22nd 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/]]>May 22nd 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/

[crowd] oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh [/crowd]
]]>May 22nd 2008 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
[/joke]]]>May 22nd 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
It's kind of impossible to monitor the thoughts and predict the actions (even though indians are so damn predictable), of a billion or more ppl. Even if we look at just the middle class, which is burgeoning at 150 million, the phones which are really popular in India are nokia, SE, and other brands. RIM is not even a fashion mobile. It's strictly for business purposes, used to executives and businessmen.

As I said, this seems an exercise in futility, to appease a public, irritated at how little the govt. is doing to curb terrorism.

Just me $0.02.]]>May 22nd 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/Yes, but you're forgetting that the gov't doesn't have to come up with a plausible tale. If they think you are a terrorist that MIGHT be planning something in the future, then you are and you get shipped to another country for torture... er, I mean questioning. Yeah, questioning.

"Sign this paper stating you killed Julius Caesar and we'll stop pouring water over your head."]]>May 22nd 2008 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
Unlocked phones are the only thing intelligent people buy.]]>May 22nd 2008 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/
you do understand that Research In Motion is a Canadian company right?]]>May 22nd 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/rim-allows-indian-government-to-monitor-blackberry-network/May 22nd 2008 3:15PM